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Gord Pedersen: 'How does that Silver Sol shit work again?' |
This is the final post for this episode. If you haven't already read the first part, please click here for
part 1 of Jim Bakker scribbles on Zach, talks junk with Bill Whaley.
I wasn't aware that Dr Gordon Pedersen was the man behind Silver Sol, but he's the one in the commercial so now he owns it in my book. He tells us some gobbledy-gook about his miracle tonic, explaining that the particles of silver are so tiny that they can 'enter a red blood cell'. He says this is good because there's nothing to 'irritate or agitate', and that the particles of silver are just there to 'kill the germs'. I haven't been following the Silver Sol scene, but this sounds very, very stupid to me. Why would anyone voluntarily ingest something that is going to enter their blood cells and 'kill the germs'? How does silver know the difference between a germ and a blood cell? This sounds like an experiment the Japanese would do on Allied POWs to see how long they'd survive. Why would anyone even waste their time with this? It's so stupid it's laughable.
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This is what happens when you follow Jim Bakker's advice |
I did a little looking on this Dr Gordon Pedersen. Don't let the white lab coat fool you, because Gordon Pedersen is not a medical doctor. He has a PhD from a toxicology program which sounds promising, but
in this press release he's billed as the “
Anti-Aging Master Formulator” which causes my quack-alert siren to whoop loudly inside my head. I don't feel very comfortable here, Mr Pedersen.
Didn't this silver stuff turn some guy's skin blue like a smurf not too long ago? I think I'll pass on your miracle tonic this time around. My body already does a good enough job 'killing the germs' and you know what they say: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll tell you what though: When I'm on my deathbed, I'll take a swig and see if it does anything for me. Does it cure dying?
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Jim Bakker's Blue Skin Ointment w/ bonus Amoeba Pot, $88 |
Zach announces a Silver Sol package for $600, then Sasha announces a case of 50 for $900. These packages come with Neti Pots. Why hasn't Jim told us the scary stories involving Neti Pots and brain-eating amoebas? Hasn't he heard about
the people who have died after using them? It's strange to think that nobody on that stage has heard about the Neti Pot amoebas, and it makes me wonder if Jim's hiding the truth a little bit there so as not to cut into his own product sales. Blue skin coloring and brain-eating amoebas...that's two strikes against this Silver Sol package already. Yet Jim Bakker is still selling it with no mention at all about these serious risks? Doesn't sound very honest to me,
Pastor Bakker.
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Lori says "Wow!" while Jim gulps air |
We're out of the commercial and back to the Junk Man Show with Jim Bakker. Jim asks a question designed to lead Whaley into a product demonstration, but the Junk Man's having none of it. These are direct quotes:
Jim: “I've read that you help street people stay warm...One of the biggest problems people are going to have is when the power goes out. How do you keep from freezing?”
Junk Man: “Let's go to the street first.”
Jim: “Okay.”
Jim just has to sit there and take it. He's on the couch, leaning on his knee and staring at Whaley, but he's powerless to do anything. The old coot just keeps going on. For her part, Lori loves listening to this guy. She turns to the camera and mouths the word 'Wow!' as Whaley talks.
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Whaley grabs his papers as Jim dreams of a happy place |
Uh oh, Whaley just stepped over into la-la land. Now he's talking governmental conspiracy against the poor, the homeless, and the 'working people'. He's using the fingers on his hands to count off each targeted group. Jim, you need to step in and stop this now. A man uncovering conspiracy at this level is a man that the government will do everything to silence. The FBI probably has a file as a thick as a book on this Whaley character, hell there's probably agents in your audience right now keeping tabs on him. You don't need this kind of heat Jim, you don't need it!
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The Junk Kook spices things up with conspiracy talk |
Whaley has now reached for a stack of papers to expose a Senate Bill designed, according to the Junk Kook, to outlaw people from growing gardens. Lori's little mind has been blown by this conspiracy. We hear her off-camera saying, "Unbelievable. Unbelievable". With his stack of papers in one hand, Whaley employs use of his other hand to count off even more targeted groups. He's talking farming, saying something about us controlling the food. He then says, '
Guess who else we control?' Then bam, an edit arrives just in time. Just in time to
save Whaley's life, and possibly everyone at Morningside. Whatever information he had was bound to uncover conspiracy at the highest levels of government. They will stop at nothing, Bill, nothing. Now I understand why you live 'off the grid'.
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The Junk Kook's audio was cut. What secrets did he expose? |
The edit was abrupt, and now it goes straight to Bakker. Jim feeds into Whaley's conspiracy a little bit, talking about some weird government crackdown on an Amish farmer selling raw milk. The camera shows Whaley with a smirk on his face while he points to his papers and speaks, but there's no sound because it's an edit job. Wow, I wonder how long he droned on for before the kids cut him off in the editing room? How much more conspiracy is lying on the Jim Bakker Show cutting room floor? Maybe Jim Bakker himself is part of the conspiracy to silence the Junk Kook...you ever think of that one, Bill?
Finally, Bakker has taken back a little control. He moves from the Amish farmer straight into Lori's House, telling us that he's being called 'evil' for building a home to save babies. No Jim, that's not why you are called evil. You are called evil because you prey on the elderly and mentally-incompetent, earning their trust specifically so you can take their money. You are called evil not because you are building a home to save babies, Jim, but because you lie about why people call you evil.
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Bakker: 'Oh my God, I've invited a lunatic onto my show.' |
Jim turns back to Bill and pleads with him, “
We can't get political. They'll put me away, Bill.” That's Jim's way of saying, 'Knock off the soapbox shit and get to the trinkets'. Bakker asks the Junk Kook how we can stay warm if the power grid goes down. Hey Bill, I'll take this one for you. Jim, the secret is layers. Thermals, jackets, whatever you have in the closet. You know the way you're dressed when you go outside in the cold? Just dress like that inside. Add a blanket if you need to. Burn some wood in a fireplace, maybe even roast some marshmallows! Next question please.
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Whaley pouts after Jim shoots down his conspiracy theory |
The Junk Kook was still thumbing the pages of his conspiracy documents when Jim told him to knock it off. I'm pretty sure he's pissed off now because he's acting like a bratty child who was just told to sit still at a Christmas party. He's back to flopping his hands up and down on the arms of his chair, and he has a little smirk on his face. Bill Whaley, a sixty-something man who once flew choppers in Vietnam, is pouting.
The Junk Kook doesn't like being silenced. Without neighbors, he pretty much lives in silence all the time save for his dumpster divin' wife. Deep down inside, I think what Bill Whaley wants are friends, people to talk to and people to listen. Unfortunately, years of living like a mountain man have made him strange. Picking through garbage is strange. Dreaming up conspiracy is strange. If he were a kid, he could break out of that strangeness bubble and live normally like everyone else. But the Junk Kook is already into his sixties. There's no changing a man who's had that much time to become weird. So, the Junk Kook's inner desire for friendship will never be satisfied unless he finds a friend who is also strange. And that'll just make him weirder.
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Bill Whaley angrily snatches bag off table |
Since the Junk Kook is pouting, he didn't accept Jim's first invitation to tell us all how to keep warm. Now Jim has to really prod him into action. Jim chooses his words carefully, saying “
You have so many things, I don't know which ones you want to go to first. Do you want me to pick or do you want to tell me?” That bratty child who was told to sit down is now being told to pick a present and open it while everyone watches. Whaley angrily snatches an empty plastic bread bag off the table. This guy is cracking me up, he's really pissed off that Jim told him to stop with the conspiracy crap. He hoists the bag over his head and, in a condescending tone, asks everyone on stage what they would do with it. He has such a look of disdain on his face as he asks this, he's just dying to point his finger at everyone on stage and call them dummies.
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Bill Whaley: 'I'm holding gasoline in my hand you dummies.' |
After a pause, Bakker says he would throw the bag away. Kevin follows the leader and says he would throw it away too. At this point, I think they want to throw Bill Whaley away with the bag too. The Junk Kook looks down his nose at us and says, “
I'm holding gasoline in my hand.” Kevin Shorey feigns shock at this announcement, and Whaley reiterates that the plastic bag can be converted to gasoline. He once again holds his prized plastic bag up, and then we get a very long, awkward pause. I thought my DVR froze, but nope that's just the deafening sound of silence on stage. Whaley has completely killed any amount of viewer interest in him with his pouting act, and now he's going nuts with the bread bag. Everyone, and I mean every single person on that stage, is on the defensive with him. They've all now realized that he's a lunatic.
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Whaley's 'latex glove': The bane of canines everywhere. |
The plastic bag is not just gasoline, Whaley tells us. It's also a latex glove that can be used to pick up dog 'droppings'. I'm very suspicious of this statement, Bill. Out in my neck of the woods, we don't associate latex gloves with dog crap. We associate them with people crap, and more specifically, the holes where the people crap comes from. Are you bread-bagging your hands and giving rectal examinations out there in 'off-the-grid' land? And who are you examining? There are exactly two people in those woods where you live, plus one unlucky dog. Please don't tell me you're...I just...
don't you dare hurt that dog, Bill.
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Bill Whaley's dog being inspected for worms |
Whaley goes on about the multi-use bread bag. He uses it to store butchered chickens in the freezer, and god knows what else. He also puts his skid-marked underwear, ratty t-shirts and mismatched socks in the bag so they don't get wet. What about bread, Bill, do you ever put bread in the bag?
Bill wears the bags on his feet in the wintertime. He says he puts them on his feet, then puts socks over them to keep his feet warm. You're a military man, Bill. Isn't that a recipe for trench foot? Or do you use the water generated by your sweaty, suffocating feet for brushing your teeth?
Whaley ends his childish tirade by asking a question. With his prized bag once again held up with both hands and a voice filled with utter contempt, he turns to Jim and Lori and asks, “Why would I throw it away?” As he asks, he jingles the bag ends so that the plastic makes noise.
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Jim talks Whaley down off the ledge as Lori daydreams |
Jim got a lot more than he bargained for with this guest. Jim is sweating, oh man is he sweating. He moves to a new question, and as he poses it he sounds like a psychiatrist trying to keep a wild-eyed mental patient from setting himself on fire.
Bakker is really shaken. He says, “Bill, what you're telling us is we can use the things around us to survive. We don't have to lay down and die.” Whaley is folding the plastic bag into a neat square as Jim speaks. Bakker looks to the audience for applause and gets it, and then we see Jim with a look of worry on his face as he gulps down a mouthful of air. Disaster averted, but what's up next?
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Bill Whaley loves knowing more about garbage than we do |
Whaley has lightened up now. The tension was cut by the applause, and now Bill Whaley feels respected again. He grabs another piece of garbage, an empty spaghetti sauce jar. Actually, I wouldn't classify this one as garbage if you have liquids you want to store. It depends on the liquid, of course. I might use it for pickled eggs, while the Junk Kook might use it for urine bombs. Let's see.
God, Whaley is so obnoxious. He has a way of speaking that is demeaning to all around him. Lori picks up on it subconsciously, because now she's referring to him as 'sir'. He's an asshole without justification. He tells all of us dummies that we can use the sauce jar as a measuring cup. He also says that we can use it to serve drinks in. He suggests giving it to children to drink from, so if they break it they “don't break your good stuff.” You know what I would use your glass jar for, Bill? A baseball. I would tee that sucker right up, then shatter it into a million unusable pieces with a baseball bat. Oh hey, give me that bread bag too, it'll make a great noise maker. Just blow it up full of air, hold the open side closed, then clap your hands together quickly. Pop!
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A frozen Jim Bakker tries to figure a way out of this debacle |
Jim is frozen solid on the couch. Lori reacts well to assholes, she likes that sort of leadership, but Jim doesn't. He's not quite sure what to do here.
Now the Junk Kook grabs a 2-liter bottle that he chopped in half. It's not chopped well, it looks like he hacked it in half with a butter knife or clipped it down with nail clippers. I also can't rule out the possibility that he had his wife bite through it. Whaley is finding his groove now. He leans back in the chair and asks, “
What can you do with a 2-liter bottle?” See that's the problem, Bill, it's the way you introduce your items. Stop asking us what we can do with your garbage and just show us instead.
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Plastic bottle that Whaley's wife bit in half |
You ask us questions that you think we can't answer in order to make us feel small. But it's not that we can't answer them, it's that we don't really care. You deal in garbage, the stuff I toss out with a smile on my face. Whenever I have to go back into my garbage to find something that was thrown out accidentally, I don't smile. I grimace and I hold my nose, and sometimes I even ask my wife for help because it's so disgusting to me. When you pose questions designed to make people feel dumb for not knowing the ins-and-outs of the garbage heap, you fail in your quest for friendship. Normal people don't like that.
From the 2-liter bottle, Whaley says he can make a water filter, ice holder, and funnel. Bakker breaks free from his daze and jumps on the funnel idea. Jim grabs the funnel from the table and tells us how we could use it to add gas to our cars if we needed to. Does Jim not know that gas cans come with spouts? I'll go one further: Does Jim not know that funnels can be purchased for a couple dollars at Home Depot? With the dollar Jim gave Lori earlier in the show, they're already halfway down the road to funnel ownership. See how easy that is, Jim?
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Papa Whaley took little Jimmy's funnel toy away from him |
Whaley isn't having any of Jim's gas-can funnel crap. He takes the funnel away from Bakker like a parent taking scissors from a toddler and completely ignores Jim's suggestion. I get the feeling that the Junk Man is thinking, 'Thanks for humoring us buddy, but let's leave the survival stuff
to the experts.' Jim was still talking as Whaley took the funnel back from him, he even looked to his audience for support while stammering out, “
Isn't that a good..good idea?” I hate to say it, but I'm actually starting to pull for Bakker in this fight. Whaley's a total jackass and needs to be put in his place. If Bill were an ass because he doesn't like Bakker, I'd be on his side. He isn't though. Bill Whaley's an ass because Bill Whaley's an ass.
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"...teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime." |
Ugh, the Junk Man tells us something about poking holes in the bottle, stitching it with twine, and adding bread crumbs to make a 'minnow catcher' for fishing. What happened to you out there in that Vietnamese jungle, Bill? What did you see that's got you so spooked? You're back home in America now, Bill. You don't need to do this, we are friendlies and you are safe. You can go to the store and buy bait from an honest man who is happy to sell to you. Hell, you can even skip the bait and just buy a fish! Don't worry, you will not encounter any VC here. No land mines, no crushed glass in your Pepsi. Just relax sir and calm down. Now please tell me: Are you carrying any knives or other weapons on your person right now?
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'Wait 'till the Feds get a load of my urine bombs, muhahaha!' |
Whaley is still obsessing over the bottle. He's showing us how he can add one of his black-painted glass bottles inside the larger plastic bottle, fill one of the two with soup (I don't know which), and cook the soup outside in the sun. As he's configuring this thing, it's making all kinds of annoying ripping and tearing noises as he tries to fit everything together. Why Bill? Why would I waste my time? What you are showing us is so unimportant, it really is. If I had a choice between doing all that menial crap to sun-cook my soup, or just eating cold soup...I'll eat cold soup, Bill. Really, I would.
[Bill Whaley] [showing me how to configure the soup cooker] "So you just take this piece here and add this part...wait, hold on, I think I'm missing something."
[Ron] [eyes glossing over] "It's okay Bill, I don't need all that stuff. I'll just eat it cold."
[Bill Whaley] [shock bordering on offense] "Cold soup? Who wants to eat cold soup!? Just gimme a second, there's a piece missing. We'll get your soup cooking in no time!"
[Ron] [looks at watch] "Bill, it's...it's fine. Can I have my soup back please?
[Bill Whaley] [red-faced and aggressive] "No you cannot have your soup back please, I haven't shown you how to heat it yet! Just give me a second."
[Ron] "These aren't seconds anymore, these are minutes now and I'm hungry."
Bill growls threateningly.
[Ron] [laughing] "Why are you getting so upset?"
[Bill Whaley] [screaming] "I'm not upset!"
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Bill Whaley rubs his 40-grit palms together |
Jim refers to Whaley's soup-warming contraption as a 'solar cooker'. I'm not sure that 'cooker' is the right word as I don't think anyone will be sizzling bacon in it anytime soon, but whatever. It gets hot, wow. Bill also says we can take a sand-filled soda can, paint it black, then set it in the sun to make a hand warmer. Ahhh, Bill knows just how to make things nice and cozy on those crisp Ozark mornin's. Bill really lays it on us thick with the hand warmer, even rubbing his hands together as he describes it. The sound his hands make when rubbed together are like sandpaper on a wood deck. Don't let the dumpy looks fool you, because the Junk Man isn't all about business: He's pleasure too.
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The Junk Kook snaps rubber band off yet more garbage |
Jim asks Bill what else he has for show-and-tell. I hope this is over soon because my Bill Whaley Junk-O-Meter is running into the red zone. I'm very near to experiencing a junk overdose, and I'm considering buying a furnace for all of my garbage to prevent it from falling into the hands of the other Bill Whaleys of the world.
Bill asks one of the Master's Media kids to pass him a piece of garbage that's out of reach. It's yet another crinkly piece of plastic. If this guy lived next door to me, he would drive me bonkers. I recycle. I have plastic and glass bottles wrapped up in bags on the side of my house, not stacked, just lying out there nice and clean, awaiting the few times each year when I have time to unload it all at the recycling center. If Bill lived next door, I just know that guy would be breaking my balls every couple weeks or so, asking if he could have my plastic. I'd have to tell him no, but then I'd realize that he's looking at my house and probably rooting through my garbage at night when I'm sleeping. I'd be powerless to stop him. It would drive me nuts.
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The Junk Tornado unwraps loudly while Lori tries to speak |
Whatever Whaley's next piece of garbage is, he has it encased in a plastic bag. Is that to keep it clean? He snaps off two rubber bands from the bag and starts unraveling the treasure inside. Meanwhile, Lori is talking, or at least trying to talk. She's saying something about the Master's Media kids, but Bill keeps driving on with his unpacking. He's like a Junk Tornado: All we see and hear is the crinkling of plastic, rubber bands snapping, and cups or pieces of cups flying about. Whaley's in his zone now, he has no time for Lori's child's play and small talk. Lori's voice trails off as she completes her sentence and stares at Bill, then we all listen and watch for a few awkward seconds as the Junk Tornado finishes unpacking. The ball is back in Whaley's court now.
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Bill Whaley struggling to snug his water filter down tight |
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This is a coffee creamer bottle. I just cut the bottom off of it." Whaley's face is glowing, he loves this stuff. "
I went down to Walmart for $7 and bought me one of those Brita pitcher filters." Bill then drops one of those 'Brita pitcher filters' into his creamer bottle. It's a near perfect fit. Bill pulls down hard on the other end of the filter, you can see the strain on his face as he snugs the filter into the plastic bottle and seats it. He holds it up for us to see and declares proudly, "
Now I got a water filter that'll filter 40 gallons of water anywhere I want to go with it." Bill, my good man...what you call a water filter, I call a smoking gun. Did you know that Jim Bakker actually sells expensive Seychelle water filters for over 3 times the price you just mentioned? In fact, the chair your sitting in was probably still warm from Dr Seychelle's last visit! Don't know who Dr Seychelle is, Bill? Well let me describe him for you, you might like him!
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Detective Bill Whaley holds the smoking gun for all to see |
First off,
Dr Seychelle is not really a doctor at all, but Jim insists on calling him one and the fake doctor doesn't seem to mind. His real name is Carl Palmer. He has a face full of plastic surgery, is the CEO of a multi-million dollar company, and has what might be called a 'trophy wife' who operates as a 'Holistic Dental Hygienist'. That sound like your kinda' people, Bill? Or can I just call you 'Dr Whaley'...it'll make people trust you more!
You want conspiracy, Bill, well you just got one. A real one this time. You are now in competition with the fake Dr Seychelle and his froggy little buddy, Jim Bakker. You are on a show whose sole intent is to sell product. You, Bill, with all your quirks, are still at heart trying to help people. If you thought that's what Jim Bakker was about, you've made a mistake. The Jim Bakker Show is designed for product-sales, not people-helping. Showing people how to make a cheap water filter is a noble effort on your part, but in Jim's calculating mind, why would he give people something for free when he can charge them for it instead?
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Jim got away from the $7 water filter real quick |
Jim's subdued response to Bill's water filter: "
Oh my lamb." Bakker had no idea this was going to happen and I can see the wheels turning in his mind, trying to figure out how to brush this under the rug as fast as possible without people catching on. We get one more sentence from Bill before edit: "
That's how simple it is to have good clean water." Jim says, haltingly, "
It really is. What's next?" Lori is next to Jim with a smile plastered on her face, but I can see her little mind chugging along as well. I'm pretty sure she caught on to the water filter fiasco too, but hell for all I know she's daydreaming about sex and crack-pipes. You never really know with Lori...one minute she's thinking about abortion, the next minute she's thinking about balloons.
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Biker Chick Max tries to remember how much Jim's filters cost |
As I said, a heavy edit took place here. The next time we see Bill he's snapping a rubber band back onto the plastic-covered water filter set that took him so long to unwrap earlier. No statement on this, Pastor Bakker? Shouldn't you be suggesting to us all that we save our money on pricey Seychelle filters and just build Dr Whaley's $7 filters instead?
We're back to Jim's first question about how to keep people warm, and Bakker once again refers to homeless people as 'street people'. Whaley grabs a large tin can and starts pulling metal objects out of it while Jim is still talking. Clank, clink, clunk. I know you're off the grid Bill, but I think someone is eventually going to find you out there because of all the noise you make. Do you get a lot of hungry bears out your way?
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Bill Whaley removes small metal can from large metal can |
The Junk Man is glowing again. I get the feeling he could talk junk, garbage and scavenging all day and night, then continuing on into the morning. Bill Whaley fails among men, but at the garbage heap he reigns supreme. Bill grabs Jim's sharpie, the same one used to write on Zach's forehead, and draws a square on the tin can. He tells us that we can cut out the square of tin, bend it over a stick, and 'put a nail through it' to make a frying pan. I have to say, when Bil grabbed the Zach sharpie and started drawing I was expecting a little more from him then a piece of tin attached to a stick. Let's throw that one out Bill, it's sort of lame. Even a gorilla could figure that one out. And by gorilla, I mean Zach Drew.
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'Scuse me brother, any sausage cans to spare? |
If we want to make a heater instead, Bill tells us to add a couple inches of dirt or sand to the tin can. Then we take a Vienna Sausage tin can, add wax and some pipe cleaners to make a candle. Bill, this one's even more lame. Where am I going to find an empty Vienna Sausage can? Do I need to find a hobo in a train car and rifle through his plaid knapsack while he's passed out drunk? And if I already have wax, wouldn't I also
already have a candle? Bill, did you know they make things called
tealight candles that can be purchased for less than a
twenty cents a piece? You need to get out more and stop handling so much garbage, I think all the toxic metals have started to turn your brain into pudding.
Bill's still driving on with his candle heater. He tells us to place the sausage-can candle into the big tin can, then take a "
big 62 oz juice can", poke holes in it and place it over the top of this unwieldy contraption to make a tiny, ineffective heater. I wouldn't even know what a 62 oz juice can looks like, but Bill has the sucker memorized. You've been hanging around the garbage heap for far too long Bill. Here's a life tip: If you converse with more rodents each day than people, then you need a serious change of lifestyle. It's not healthy for your mind.
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Jim asked the Junk Kook for his thoughts on the economy |
Bakker wants some fear-mongering from Whaley to close the show with. Jim asks the Junk Kook, a man completely unqualified to give answers on, well, anything, if he thinks the dollar is going to 'totally collapse'. Whaley says that this year the 'financial institution' is going to hit everybody and it's going to hit us hard. Jim Bakker, of course, loves hearing the unqualified Bill Whaley predict economic disaster. He looks to the audience and says, "
Now listen to what he's saying people. This is what I've been trying to warn you and warn you and warn you..."
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I'll get by just fine without your plastic bread bag, Bill |
Finally, the show winds down. Bakker asks Whaley to address the critics who call his gimmick stupid. Whaley tells us "
your dollar's gettin' littler every day", and asks, "
What happens when you can't buy this?" Bill, if I'm so stupid that I can't figure out how to stay warm with all the extra clothes in my closet, or how to crack open a can of Campbell's soup and eat it, then I guess I'll just die. That really sums it up for me, I'd rather lose out and die then spend my life living in fear of ridiculous things like roving gangs, dying of thirst, starving, or freezing to death. I'm not a settler on the frontier.
But let's be honest here: The scary world you describe is not going to happen in our lifetime. We don't live in Sudan, we live in America. Among other things, we have police, military, business, and multiple layers of government filled with fellow citizens who have a vested interest in keeping everything under control. The doom-speakers and fear-mongers like Jim Bakker know this too. That's why they take cold hard cash as payment for their products and speaking engagements. They prey on dimwits who've been watching too many scary movies. Think about it for a second: if Jim Bakker really thought the world was going to fall apart, wouldn't he be doing something to prevent it instead of
catering to it?
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How much did Jim Bakker pay for your integrity, Bill? |
Bakker ends the show with one final pitch for his Wheat Buckets. The high hopes I had for Bill Whaley's integrity have now vanished, because Jim tells us that every $100 Wheat Bucket sold today comes with a free DVD of the Junk Kook in action. We see Bill sitting in his chair, twiddling his thumbs and smiling as if he just swallowed a canary. Bill must be thinking that he pulled a fast one over on Jim, but believe me Bill, the only one pulling a fast one in this relationship is Jim Bakker. You are a tadpole swimming with the largest toad in the swamp, and he's been swimming in this swamp for years.
The show ends, then we get a five-minute commercial for foodbuckets.
2,815 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 2815 Newer› Newest»Bill Whaley in that last photo looks like he just finished off a 3 course turkey dinner. He has that content, now I wait for the money the TV appearance offers to start rolling in. I've finally hit the "big time".
Wow didn’t see Barry Williams on the live feed, but I tuned in late …But Jim did pray for the people that mock him and laugh at him!
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Hi Chubbs!
Yes, I sure did hear the band perform the song that Bakker asked you to learn called "Brighten the Corner" and I have not seen you on the air ever since. That show was recorded somewhere between two or three weeks ago and is just now hitting the airwaves. Why have you been replaced with another Chubbs in your absence? I know you must have had a lot of time to learn the song since the young lady in the band said she had just heard the song, for the first time, the night before! Anyway, I liked it but I have one more thing I would like to add if you don't mind.
Bakker said that he wanted you guys to learn the song because it reminded him of the fuel-less generator. He went on to say that, when the lights go out, you can "Brighten the Corner" if you have one of his fuel-less generators.
To have you guys (and girl) learn a song solely because he wants to use it as a theme song for one of his sales pitches is classic Jim Bakker indeed.
And, in closing, allow me to state that when Bakker was having one rubbed out for him by one of his travel companions who he rewarded with an unlimited budget, travel, and the assurance that he was doing "God's work" is classic Jim Bakker too! I am greatly indebted to Pulitzer Prize winning author, Charles Shepard, for his relentless and remarkable, award winning reporting of this con artist. The con artist who had you learn a song so he could sell a Morman's fuel-less generator on his so-called Christian TV show!
Chubbs, have you ever thought about being the piano player in a whore house? It would be a much more honorable gig than the one you have now! Have a nice day!
Hey Ron! I accidently posted the same post to my dear friend, Chubbs, twice. I'm sorry,I thought the first one did not take. Please remove one of them for me. Thanks!
Thanks for the info Susan. That will be exactly what the FTC needs to know in the complaint I'm filing. Jim is misrepresenting what his piece of garbage generator is able to do.
Bill Whaley said in essence that he almost ripped the head off of the girl at the gas company when she told him of the 'meter fee" involved. I don't doubt that for a second. He has the look of a big bully. Like if she was personally responsible for setting fees. Misdirected anger, Whaley.
Please stop the hate and listen to my new video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y7vp2p6AE_o
BILL WHALEY FOR MAYOR IN 2012!!!!
Good point Bro D. Everything on that show is used to promote something jim is selling. Faker bakker money maker.
Rock on Chubbs!
Rock on dude!
... damn it, I don't think that's the real guy. ;((
CHUBBS FOR MAYOR
I noticed the Bakker lovers are a teeny bit upset because of this truthful, well written blog.
OMG..its a blog. Can't hurt zombies especially, since you all have no brains. Listen up babies..words can't hurt you. Words won't hurt Bakker either because he is a sociopath.
If you zombies continue to scream and make my brain spin...I will go onto the Internet and type word for word what he and the other creepy preacher did to Jessica Hahn.
I know the zombies are rolling their eyes saying "here we go again", but its important to re-visit what Bakker is capable of. You zombies just laugh about it...Creepy!!
I say do it anyway Jessica. bakker is scum and that story needs retold so these zombies know what the frog did. I really like the part when he curls up in the fetal position on the couch and fake cries as she walks by.
It's quiet ... too quiet. The bakker zombies must be opening their space food buckets. It's quiet ... very quiet. ;)
Craig,
If I understood the Government of Blue eye correctly at the last meeting I attended,when Morningside was annexed into the City of Blue eye,the City would not be responsible for Police, Fire or Ambulance services.
I am not 100% sure of this but I am 100 % sure that is my interpretation of what was said.
Thanks Joe. I can only imagine that vote. All those in favor, please show your tooth.
Any comments on the new video I just posted?
If it wasn't you Kelsey, I apologize. I'm tempted to tell a story about when I was a child and got a spanking for something my brother did... the answer from her... when my Mom found out it was not me that deserved the spanking... she said "well then, THAT'S FOR NEXT TIME!"
TBC
Although this has nothing to do with this post, I want to share the fact that I have had the pleasure, this week, of hosting Delta 1-5, 1st Calvary Division, Black Knights They were in theatre in nam 65-72.
This was only their second reunion since serving together and I am very honored to have met each and every one of them and was able to be a part of their History.
Thank you for your service Men, You are all heros in my eyes.
Harmony (if that is really you),
I am an old man, a Christian for about 35 years. Yes, I watched your video and was very touched by it. In fact, it brought tears to my eyes due to the heartfelt sincerity of the love of God reflected in all of you in that video.
However, I honestly believe you are following the wrong leader in Jim Bakker. But I hope you young people will continue doing what you are doing and find a better environment to do it in.
God bless you all.
J136
Joe C. who cares about that meeting. Tell us about the meetings you had with Jimbo and the others from Morningside!
There are many discussion's presently taking place within this area. There are people that have vested interest in their life in this area and I am very curious to see the outcome.
Being an outsider, as only being a 3 year resident, I think this will be a good test of character for all involved.
It does sadden me that there are people saying that if you are against anything, for what ever reason, you are a hater of babies or are refered to as somebody that is evil, only because you are in disagreement on an issue.
However you couch it, Joe... you can't compare saving lives with anything else... nothing.
Nothing to do with the Foodbucket Fanpage but it does show your character, which has been attacked by some.
Joe C. how much did Jimmy grease your palms to keep your mouth shut?
There are differences of opinion on some very specific issues, other than that, I don't know that there is anything I have left out about any meeting I have been to.
I will say all parties involved have been very adult in their attitude and are sticking to the facts of the situation at hand.
I was informed this evening by a neighbor, A meeting will be scheduled in the near future between local land owners and Morningside,that I will be asked to attend,concerning the covenant within Brushy Creek.
Hey! Joe C. doesn't OWE YOU anything! Big mouth Blue Eye Bozo
TBC, are you for real (5:26pm)? Do you have no memory of the time you posted in these comments, and was adamant that you would never post again? Admittedly, you then ranted at Kelsey for over 2 days - if you've changed your mind, and want to keep posting, just say so.
Saying nothing and continuing to post makes it look like maybe we shouldn't take anything you say seriously.
Your comment at 5:26pm - where you tell Kelsey that if it was not her who posted the comment that offended you so, your over-the-top reaction will be for the *next* time you assume an anonymous post is her, and it offends you - gives us some insight into you, though:
Not a great childhood, hey. I'm sorry for that. It could not have been easy to understand, as a child, why your mother, when she found out she physically disciplined you in error, did not apologize, but said "well then, THAT'S FOR NEXT TIME."
Tanya, do you take stupid lessons? Or give them?
TBC, I don't know why you can't have a rational discussion with me. If you and I were sitting around at a BBQ and you brought up that you followed Jim Bakker, and I brought up all the issues I have with his style of preaching, we could have a beer and a discussion and we would probably both learn something. I really think you know your Bible, and not enough people do.
I certainly am not going to post my opinion here just to be verbally assaulted by you. If I post something, I'll sign my name, but I'm not going to use any type of registered account. You don't think I see the weight of my "idle words" but you don't either. Go back and read the things that you wrote to me. My husband read your whole "100 pounds of flesh" rant and absolutely flipped his lid. No man in my family would ever speak to a Christian woman the way you spoke to me. Maybe you feel like you have the right because I'm behind a computer and you can't see me. I don't know. You most offend me because I expected a lot better from someone who appeared to be as learned in church doctrine as you.
And before you "spank me" (have a field day with that one, posters) just remember that the blood of Christ takes away all my sins - my sins of thought, word and deed. I will never have to give an "account of every word I've said here" because I'm secure in my forgiveness. So don't ever threaten the promise of my salvation again because I posted my **opinion** of Jim Bakker's sermons.
And act like a gentleman.
-Kelsey
Anon @ 614pm
Tanya is very intelligent. ;)
@6:14pm - thanks for asking!
I post comments that point out stupidity quite often - so I give "stupid lessons."
Glad you noticed.
And thank you, Kool-Aid.
I must ask, keep my mouth shut about what? I was pissed off because there was construction noise at 6:30 in the friggin morning. I had no idea what was being built, who was building it and for that matter, didn't give a rats ass. All I knew is the fact I was pissed off that I was being awoken by the sound of a machine breaking rock. We discussed our lack of communication and my lack of knowledge that a project of such magnitude was taking place right next to me and I had no idea.
We had a very productive meeting, In my eyes. What do you want me to say? You want me to make shit up? It was agreed a lack of communication did, in fact occur.
Lol. Tanya is smart, sorry zombie. Try again.
And thank you, Craig.
As usual, although there have been plenty of posts from Bakker-supporters, nobody has chosen to speak about the various issues brought up yesterday. Or any at all, but reading yesterday's comments does not seem too much to ask.
What we have had: more attacks directed at Kelsey, more accusations thrown at Joe C., Uncle Henry returns but only to say s/he doesn't care about the meeting of men who served in war, and on and on.
I find it interesting that Bakker-supporters come here and accuse others of being "bad Christians" - yet not one has addressed the lack of a Jim Bakker Easter show... the lack of which has been brought up more than once (most recently, I believe, by "fed up with fools").
@TBC.
Hit and run again. You scare no one here. You haven't the authority to do so. Lol. Your dark interpretation of God and salvation is regrettably reaching out over the airwaves. These false teachings make real Christians repulsed. Your miracle a day, according to jim theology is deeply flawed. Your ranting here shows how fragile and insecure your beliefs are. BTW, nice Easter broadcast, lol.
Spare me the uppity indignance, Kelsey. You don't get respect from me when you hang out in this cesspool. And the fact that your husband was indignant at what I said and not some of the other filth uttered here... well, that says a lot about him too.
Go ahead, Kelsey. Do what you did here on this blog in a church somewhere. Do it to the Pastor. Go gossip about his preaching, his motives, his methods, and judge his sermons and his heart... go to all the people first and tell them what you don't agree with and start them talking... then go to the leaders.
See if they don't sit your butt down and tell you to shut up or face the consequences. They would tell your husband the same thing. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already with you. Women like you are bad news in any authority stucture, and particularly in the church. You think you have a right to your distorted opinions but you don't, not when they are contrary to God's instructions for keeping your tongue from gossip.
Weave a little web of slander under the guise of 'concern' for the accuracy of the message. See how far you get. Go ahead, Kelsey.
You can cast doubt on the promise of someone else's salvation, but you don't want it done to you? Please. Duplicity is not attractive in someone who professes Christ. Hautiness isn't either.
Another poster had a good point about the hundreds or thousands Jim has led to Christ. What do you have to say about the testimonies of thousands that Jim Bakker's ministry led people to Christ? Do you deny this? Do you fight against the people's own testimonies? Let me ask you, how many people have you been directly responsible for leading to Christ in the last year? One? Two or more? Hundreds?
TBC
Hahaha - is that you classy Craig, or cottage cheese Craig?
Lololololol. Perfect timing TBC. Once again, you show us the bakker heresy. If you don't agree with jim's twisted religion then you are doomed and your church will chastise you. TBC, you may not believe this but, jim is a laughing stock and no real pastor would ever look down on a person for calling out the bakker fraud. Kelsey and her family need not fear anything for being truthful. On the other hand, following a false prophet may jeopardize you.
@7:48. I am the only Craig. That's why I always use the same screen name. As for anonymous comments, well that only says you don't want to own or stand behind what you write.
OK, I have a suggestion regarding TBC, feel free to agree or not, but here it is:
TBC ignores everyone else and fixates on Kelsey.
TBC ignores his or her own adamant declaration that s/he will not post here again - and has been back several times... to attack Kelsey, or anonymous posts that TBC *assumes* is Kelsey.
When Kelsey identifies herself, and says an anonymous comment was not hers, TBC tells Kelsey his or her venom will simply be for the "next time."
TBC threatened violence at 7:42pm "see if they don't sit your butt down and tell you to shut up or face the consequences....I'm surprised it hasn't happened already with you...women like you are bad news in any authority structure..."
TBC clearly has no intention of backing off Kelsey, or answering anybody else's posts.
Therefore, due to all the above, TBC has become a stalker.
Yes, you can stalk people on the internet, TBC - and you are doing it.
There is no point to trying to interact with TBC - many of us have tried.
What is left?
Ignore everything TBC posts.
Why support TBC in this bizarre fixation on a person s/he does not know, or the compulsion to come back to this blog and post over and over?
Just one last piece of advice for TBC, that I know will be ignored - fixating on someone you do not know, lack of control (i.e., being able stay away from a blog you said you would stay away from), hatred of women, threats of physical harm ("the consequences"), stalking over the internet... red flags. Big red flags. You have a problem.
You forgot one stalker tipoff Tanya:
-uses acronym instead of name
I love that the sinister sounding "TBC" is Jim's biggest defender here. Doesn't he make you want to move right on down to Morningside and snuggle up with him? What a fun bunch!
Stalker TBC said
"You think you have a right to your distorted opinions but you don't, not when they are contrary to God's instructions for keeping your tongue from gossip."
Hello TBC, I'll bet you God also says for a pastor to keep his tongue off of other mens private parts and so far Pastor Bakker has been rather unsuccessful at that, hasn't he?
Why don't you drop your drawers and and insert your appendage in his mouth and then come back here after he gets off and tell us all what a true man of God he is and how much you enjoyed doing "God's work" with him! Fool.
Leadies and Germs,
I present to you TBC/one of the anons: http://www.mustardseedyear.com/about/
http://www.mustardseedyear.com/2012/04/11/just-because-someone-says-theyre-christian-doesnt-mean-theyre-christian/
(and you'll notice that since he came on, the home page posts don't even paginate properly.Try it, click "Next Page" down at the bottom.)
For all your useless solar generator needs, there:
http://www.humless.com/
Yes, brought to you by the same scum behind Food For Health and Silver Sol. And, unlike the Bakker scoundrels, they ship your useless item free!
Additionally, there's a much less esoteric way to access the list of comments when over 200 than the one outlined on the sidebar. Just click on the blog post headline. That means you will be reading the actual blog post and not the the front page of the foodbucket fanpage. You find that if you'll scroll down, the comments are there, paginated by 200s.
And Trystan, honey, working the till at the f.y.e. over at the mall in yonder city does not count as having a successful job at a media company. You see, it doesn't hold much value when there are no details to back up these unsubstantiated claims of media employ for Bakker-swindled "graduates."
TBC is really hot and bothered about us Bakker spoil sports. That explains his rant against Kelsey and "us kind of women". Its sounds like TBC doesn't like women.
He uses the "Bakker Method" of putting females down and in Jessica Hahn's case Bakker put her on the floor!! How about that TBC, this is your buddy your so proudly fighting for.
Looking forward to TBC and his next rant. Got me some popcorn and I'm ready.....
TBC lover - if Morningside is made up of TBCs, then it is certainly a place to avoid. Especially for a woman, it seems.
I just watched the "Brighten the Corner" episode... I use the word "watched" loosely, I fast-forwarded much of it. That show was 100% selling the fuel-less generator, with the regular set, a kitchen set, a bedroom set, and an outdoor camping set. Add in the occasional singing of "Brighten the Corner" whenever Jim Bakker turned on a lamp, and we had an infomercial.
Absolutely no preaching, and no mention of Easter. Just sell, sell, and sell some more. High-pressure sales, too - Jim said the fuel-less generators won't be available for much longer, then there will be a 4 months wait list. Sound familiar? It should. He says something to that effect about a lot of things he sells.
Ron - thanks for the links.
Tanya, From the awards given to investigative reporters and the published accounts of "Pastor" Jim's conduct as a Christian, Morningside is also certainly a place to avoid. Especially for a man too (if you know what I mean) LOL!
Hash like you smoke,
"Just click on the blog post headline."
Can you help me out as I'm not following what you mean by "headline".
Thanks!
Hash like you smoke,
Thanks for information on TBC's blogging history.
Question. Who is the dude with the bright red shirt featured (in this link below) with the moronside band? I cannot recall seeing him before. The picture was on the Mustard Seed Year page.
http://www.mustardseedyear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/meonjbs.jpg
Mr. Mustardseed certainly has TBC 's traits. Yikes ....
Walk away from shallow social circles where gossip, sarcasm, and one- upmanship is the coin of the realm.
I was a fool and moved to Morningside. The above verse describes what it was like at that place. I did not walk away, I ran! TBC is a great example of the kind of people you will find at Morningside
Kool Aid:
The individual in the red shirt you are inquiring about, I believe, is named Jason and he is helping Bakker with social networking posts at the compound. Sasha is also doing this too. The man on the left side of the photo, wearing the blue vest, has replaced Chubbs on keyboards.
Thanks Bro D!
For Hash Like You Smoke. Very funny I.D. Especially to people who saw the show where Her Highness actually said that.
I am of the mind that Bakker is missing out on a great money-making opportunity. I saw this documentary the other day about "The Shroud of Turin' (supposed to be the burial cloth of Jesus).
Here you go, Jimbo....
1. Take the sheet off your bed and have the wife cut it up into small pieces.
2. Announce an honorary doctorate degree recipient from your fake college.
3. Have that new "doctor" appear on your program to confirm that these pieces of your bedsheet are authentic pieces from the Shroud of Turin.
4. Sell them as "love gifts" for $500 apiece and toss in a necklace and a dogtag.
There you have it. Money in the bank, Jim.
Good peoples might wonder why the "shroud" has kermit the frog on it ... but you never know it could fool them.
Those aren't tadpoles you're seeing when you look at it under a microscope.
to 8;53. Oh you walk away from Morningside but have no qualms of conscience to add to the hate, insinuations and gossip you despised so much and drove you from that den of vipers by joining these scorpions in their bucket. Oh what hypocrisy you show in your statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check out the hasps and locks on the refrigerator they used to demonstrate the solar generator. I thought that was a family thing, a Christian brotherhood. Why should I trust them when obviously they don't trust each other. Bet they don't have to chain and lock up the Bakker bucket food or Dino cake to discourage pilferage, that's they last thing a perrson take if he was hungry.
Okay Mike c. pull over big fella.
Sorry but I have to ticket you for an exclamation mark violation.
You exceeded the exclamation mark zone by !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See zombie ... the sign is clearly posted "!".
Now off you go ... and drive safe.
mike c: nothing to add that would combat what 8:53am said?
Besides calling 8:53 a hypocrite and using a lot of exclamation points (lol Kool-Aid), you wrote nothing of value that supports Morningside. In fact, your comment upholds what 8:53am wrote about - all you did was support the personal opinion 8:53 expressed.
I'm waiting for some "fighting back" with good, sensible, concrete answers to the many questions already posted, or at a minimum, a rationale comment that shows Bakker-supporters in a different light than we have seen so far.
Keep em honest KaK!
KOOL-aid KID FOR POLICE CHIEF.
Ron, will you PLEASE get on the next post about Tammy Sue's return. We are SOOOO tired of the fuel-less generator we do not know what to do! My husband and I only have but so much entertainment to watch, you know? lol We have really enjoyed reading your blog BY the way, does it seem on some days, that the whiteness of the new beard and his hair are whiter than other days? What's with that?
Oh--and PLEASE talk about the"bedroom" scene" that he and Lori did for the generator. Oh and evidently, lately they are on some sort of new "pep pills" or something , because they're laughing deliriously at nothing. What's up with that? Don't know why they're laughing---Jerry said there are only "hours" worth of food buckets left for sale--what WIll we do!! It'll be all over for us that didn't buy $3,000 worth of food buckets. During these programs aired during April's first week or so through today, April 13th--no Zack and no Kevin...where are the big guys? Lastly--did you see the new girl singing "Brighten the Corner" ? Do you think they "jazzed" that old hymn up a little? Come on, Ron--I know you need vacations--but there's too much going on here for you NOT to write about.
I would not doubt that Kevin has a ministry of his own to attend to, that would account for his absense. If I recall correctly he was always In Prov. RI on/or attending to his ministry, he must have them or branches scattered throughout the continenal US. I would think that Zach would be fledging and interested in starting his own congregation now that he possesses proper credentials, obtained at Morningside U. I would think that Nolan would be his associate Pastor, he also having earned the proper "sheepskin". Time will tell how well they do but they have half the battle won with their sheer determination and "can do" attitude. I wish them the best.
Yes Ron please blog about Tammy Sue's "big" return and also the Jim and Lori bedroom scene, it was hilarious...
Tonya, I have never known a "Uncle" or a "Henry" to be female. Please address me in the proper manner!
Thank you April 13, 2012 2:05PM!
Yes, PLEASE Ron. Almost 1100 comments on this last post - yer fallin' down on the job, here, Buddy!
It's time for some new blood!
To Uncle Henry......It's "Tanya" not "Tonya"............................................STUPID!!!
Picture Kevin, Zach, Tammy Sue and the other daughter on a water bed at the same time. That bed would pop like a ripe zit. Pressurized water squirt would cut through steel.
perculiar 12:17pm,
you asked why hasps and locks were on the refrig. I watched the live taping of that....Jim said he stores his special 7 grain bread, he drives to Ar to buy, I saw he had about 4 loafs that were in the freezer! Guess they took that story out when they did the edit! Jim doesn't want anyone touching his special stuff, the kids can eat out of the buckets! lolol
"Hey Ron! I accidently posted the same post to my dear friend, Chubbs, twice. I'm sorry,I thought the first one did not take. Please remove one of them for me. Thanks!"
How cute, look how the great Brother Dortch speaks so politely to his prophet Ron.^^^
And how many times has the great Brother Dortch brought up the topic of Pastor Jim and masturbation? I have the weirdest feeling I know what Brother Dortch thinks about in the shower when he "rubs one off". I have come to the conclusion that the great one is GAY for the Pastor. Sweet Bro, are we invited to the wedding? I guess everyones gonna have some dino cake. Yay! LOL!
But no cake for you troll^^^
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to 3:59 His special stash. That was pretty good> lol. I also noticed they Director advised Jim's grandson to keep the detergent on the washing machine, face away from the camera to avoid a product placement.
@4:49. Nice catch on the product placement mistake. You have to know the next fake product coming at us will be some bogus soap. Lol.
Kool Aid Kid and Bro D. Jason =Mustardseed. A prime TBC suspect.
@TBC. Tanya pegged you. You stalk Kelsey and you are a sick person.
I have asked the question before and have not yet received an answer from any of the higher level zombies.
"What does Jim Bakker have to do with Jesus"? How does Jesus tie in with the begging for money on Jim's part?
If God is a part of Bakker's show, wouldn't he be able to bless Jim and supply all of his needs? The Bible teaches that if you have faith and believe on Jesus he will bless you abundantly. Isn't that right?
Forget it! Men go back and sit at Bakker's feet and you girls lay at his feet and he will teach you how to minister to him.
When Mr. Bakker dies he will lay under the dirt and rot and that will be the end of his sordid life because there is nowhere else to go.
I think the Bakker Machine is trying to take Ron and the blog down. Its just my feeling. I wouldn't like it, but they are going to focus on Ron.
I think TBC is Tammy Sue because she looks like a asshole. When I first looked at her I knew she wouldn't hesitate to kick my ass.
Mr. Bakker is to blame for her ending up the way she has because he brought devastation to her mother which affected the innocent kids. Hey! Mr. Bakker are you really that proud of yourself? Your screwing around and scamming church people and then brought them down with you...What a slut you are. Wipe that smirk off your face and shove it down your throat.
I have taken the gloves off and from now on I'm locked and loaded and the zombies are in my view.
to 4:34
I bet you think you are a good christian don't you! You sick people Morningside think, talk, and act like this. Whenever Brother D or someone else brings up sleazy stuff it's just recalling all the things sleazy Jim is guilty of. Anything discussed here about the slime associated with Jim, Lori, and the residents of Morningside comes right from the mouths of the sickos at Morningside, the discussions on the stupid JB show, or past articles. All that is shared has documented proof that Jim, Lori, and company are low life scum bags! You are include in that definition loser! Take your slime somewhere else.
It is so typical of the Morningside hypocrites to accuse others of what they are guilty of. They also have the nerve to preach at those who oppose Jim scamming in the name of Jesus about righteousness, repenting, and going to hell. It can't be said enough, anyone associated with Jim Bakker is a sleazy loser! They are the ones needing to repent!
Craig,
Not sure who the TBC freak is and we may never know. Best to say for now that TBC is an a-hole zombie from the moronside crypt and is getting brownie points from freak storm bakker for his efforts.
... and TBC is a blogwhore too.
And I quote,
"I want you to pray. Maybe you Grandson or your Granddaughter should come to this school. We don't want just students, we, were not a rehabilitation center. We don't want you to send your bad kids to us. Ya know, we have had enough of that."
Kool Aid Kid. I agree. We will never know who TBC is. I am sure mr. mustardseed visits this site as well as zacharoni and the other fake students. Maybe one of them are the real TBC, or it could be a rouge zombie. Hmm, the intrigue.
TBC appears to know his way around the bible so that leaves fat zach and the rest of the moronside fake students out of the picture. LOL
perculiar said...
Check out the hasps and locks on the refrigerator they used to demonstrate the solar generator. I thought that was a family thing, a Christian brotherhood. Why should I trust them when obviously they don't trust each other.
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WOW that is the same thing I noticed. I was wondering..."Who are the keeping the food from?"
Jessica. I was looking forward to a zombie shoot. But the stupid zombies seem to be unwilling to be here tonight. You will have better luck on Sunday night. It won't be much more than target practice because they are slow and stupid.
Just a general point about screen names - for those who appear to need clarification - I do not know the gender of the person behind the screen name. This is because I do not claim to have knowledge of posters that I cannot have: I don't know what they look like, what job they may have, their sexual preference (quite the gem you posted, 4:34pm), etc etc. I say "s/he" to show I am mindful of this.
Some names make the gender clear, so I assume that person either is that gender (as I am female, and Ron is male, for example), but other names leave it more open to interpretation. "Uncle".... whose uncle, exactly? Wasn't Uncle Henry the TV side-kick of Jim Bakker back in the day? So someone chooses a screen name that is based on Jim Bakker's past - how am I to know if it is a male or female?
It may surprise some who post here, but a female could choose a male screen name and vice versa. Really - its true.
If someone wants to confirm their gender, fair enough.
Now I know that Uncle Henry is male. It would be nice if Uncle Henry also wanted to address more important issues, but whatever. My attempt to interact with Uncle Henry ended some time ago, as he never responded to my posts.
Therefore, I have no need to address Uncle Henry further. But I will make sure that if, in future, I have the desire to address Uncle Henry again, I will honour his request and use "he."
P.S. thank you, 2:59 anon, for teaching Uncle Henry how to spell. After all my posts about concrete issues that were directed at Uncle Henry, all he can do is complain because I did not assume his gender based on his screen name. How silly.
Kool-Aid and Craig - good point about Mr. Mustardseed/TBC candidate. Jim Bakker said the job is to take Bakker's "ministry" into social media, after all. What better way to represent than to go to a blog and spread the Word of Morningside?
Don't know who hired him, though - from the Mustardseed blog, April 5: "I was a little nervous at first because I’m the “new guy” and because I’d never actually officially met Jim Bakker since I came on staff.(His first real exposure to me was going to be my introducing him! But security didn’t escort me out so I guess he was satisfied with my job performance.)"
Well, you are both right, we'll likely never know. The only reason to want to know, really, is if anyone lives near TBC - so they can take protective, anti-stalking measures.
Jason Wert, March 31, 2012 blog entry:
"The man who beat you during your marriage reappears years later. The world would see a chance for you to call the cops to have him arrested or sue him for all he’s worth. God would see a chance for you to offer forgiveness."
Jason, I got your email and no I did not moderate your comment. There's also nothing in the 'spam' folder, so there must have been an error on your end. Just try again.
this may sound insane but i want to vacation at morningside during a few days of tapings. rent one of those condos with a balcany and just observe and listen to every little thing i can. i think it would great fun. i just love being nosey. of course one would have to pretend to be a zombie to put them folks there off guard but i can sure do that. i cant wait
if anyone wants to read the whole story behind what happened between Jim Bakker and his male employee/travel companion, it was published in a PEOPLE Magazine article called "Unholy Roller Coaster" and it was written by Montgomery Brower. It featured the research of author/reporter Charles Shepard who went on to win The Pulitzer Prize for his excellent reporting on the Bakker ministry. I will not post the quote again here. I figure if nobody from Morningside and Bakker's ministry wants to address it that is their choice--but to blame me for the actions of what Jim Bakker did is classic behavior of the blind faith zombies. Well. let's see...My pastor did this so lets blame it all on someone else! Yep. That's it. It was someone else who made him do it. How about the devil? Oh no, that can't be right. It was a blogger on this site that made Jim do it. You Moronside zombies are either funny or stupid. it all depends on what day it is. Is it my fault Tammy Sue gained weight too?
Hey Bro D
Maybe that explains the locks on the fridge. Jim is trying to get Tammy Sue to slim down after you fattened her up! LOL LOL LOL!!!!
"But security didn’t escort me out so I guess he was satisfied with my job performance."
An obvious tongue-in-cheek comment from Jason Wert but I couldn't help but chuckle at who would actually be the frog's security team. Really now, what good would moronside zombies be to the frog anyways for protection... they walk so damn slow.
Thanks for the laugh Jason.
To Jessica, I get this feeling your hot, You should take some time and visit me here at Morningside. I'll take you on a personal VIP tour of the production studio, a relaxing boat ride and then a feast at Gilberti's. I'm quite the Big Man on Campus around here and can pretty much write more own ticket.
Freudian slip in the post above. Hilarious.
Please stop the bickering and watch my new video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7vp2p6AE_o&feature=player_embedded
Please let me know if you enjoyed it!
Tanya, I accept your apology and will be happy answer any question you have for me.
Bro Dorch, please stop your references to Charles Shepard and thank you for not posting the quote again since it is complete BS!
Anon@831am
Yes. Caught it too. lol
Love the video, Harmony and I'm older than dirt.
Harmony " "You like me, you really like me!" Haynes @ 845am
Please stop looking desperate and watch somebody else's new video on youtube.
Oh, one last thing. Don't let us know if you liked it!
lol
God Bless You Anon @ 9:16!
KAK, I dont understand your sarcasm but please watch my new video as it will bring you peace, joy and love!
Has anyone else been blessed by my new video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7vp2p6AE_o&feature=player_embedded
You understand it too perfectly zombie!
LOL
If (and I do mean "if") anyone is interested in how my interactions with Uncle Henry were completed (as in wrapped up with a big bow on top), please refer to the following posts: April 9 @11:59pm, April 10 @6:21pm, and April 11 @8:32pm (final paragraph in the 11th post).
There has been a rash of postings lately by someone using the real names of actual people at Morningside such as Ariel, Harmony, Chubbs, the college director, and others. I don't think any of them are the real person. It smacks of the work of "The Bossman" who has recently been told that, for only a couple of extra thousand than his Dad has been paying per year, he could have gone to a real, accredited school and have gotten a real diploma. Thinking about that true fact is starting to wear on him.
Also, Uncle Henry has asked me if I would be kind enough to re-post the PEOPLE Magazine quote from the article "Unholy Roller Coaster" written by Montgomery Brower. In this artice, author Charles Shepard (who spent years interviewing Bakkers employees, family, and friends) tells the story of a Bakker employee who often traveled with Bakker. Shepard was to receive journalism's highest honor for his stellar reporting of all things Bakker. The article said:
..."Shepard recounts that one aide who traveled often with Bakker, a married man, used to give Bakker back rubs that Bakker took as a prelude to masturbation. Though upset and disgusted by his role as Bakker's geisha, the employee explained that Bakker compensated him for this arousal service with an unlimited budget, travel and his assurance that this was God's work..."
Jim Bakker has given *another* reason why he "went through Hell" (sent to prison). This came up during a discussion of Lori's House, and the fact that the building has been delayed. He did admit there were "lots of reasons," but here is the new one:
Jim said that good women and men of God, who he trusts, have told him that "one of the reasons the attack came was because I took a stand against abortion."
Lori added that it was "Christian jealousy."
So what are the reasons Jim has given so far? Let's see: he made a mistake, Man condemned him, his Ministry was stolen from him, prison was his personal desert to give him time to read the Bible, God told him he would spend one day in prison for every Sabbath day he did not rest, and he took a stand against abortion.
Does anyone else notice how Jim tailors the reason to fit what he is talking about? When the Rabbi was talking about harbingers, and not resting in the Sabbath year, Jim said he was in prison because he did not rest on the Sabbath. Now Jim is talking about the resistance to Lori's House, and he said he was sent to prison because he took a stand against abortion.
And - Jim has found another statue of Jesus that he plans to put at the entrance to Lori's House. Which will, of course, require more fundraising.
Brother D: your post reminded me - Ariel read out the products that were in one of the "love gift" packages.
So, to anyone who could not understand that participating in a video that was used as a commercial to sell love gifts was indeed selling love gifts (also that anyone who is involved with Jim Bakker is profiting off of love gifts)... want to explain this one?
I agree that it is unlikely all these posts are from the real people at Morningside - if they are, kudos for identifying themselves. If they are not - identity theft. Not a good way to promote Morningside.
Tanya:
Your observations and reporting of all things Morningside is also stellar and is so good, in fact, it just may get you called "A Witch" which is the highest honor anyone in the compound can have since it means they are an upstanding and true person of virtue and not the "Let me make up another excuse" variety we have there now. Ever since the grade school closed, Zach and crew have become a little upset they are not able to receive a proper education and have now been thrown into the 16 hour a day Bakker hell hole!
Zach ""You really think I'm fat, you really laugh at me!" Zombie@1110am
"God Bless You Anon @ 9:16!"
(zombie thanks itself for posting a comment @ 916. LOL)
"KAK, I dont understand your sarcasm"
(zombie pretends it cannot comprehend a straightforward "slap in the face" comment. LOL)
"please watch my new video as it will bring you peace, joy and love!"
(zombie reverts to begging once again. Hello? LOL)
"Has anyone else been blessed by my new video"
(I guess the zombie wants to hear from itself again! LOL)
Kool Aid:
I would say you are a scholar and are doing "God's work" too but around Jim that is definitely NOT the work you want to be doing!
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may be slow but I don't get the Freudian slip that 8;31 and 9:03 caught. Where is it? I'm wracking my brains.
Bro D I noticed a change of the posting tactics from The Bossman. The outright in your face style Zach used was not working or not appreciated by certain parties I'm guessing. Just like the moronside idiot likes to read the bible in different comic voices, I think fattso is applying that to his current posts and comes here hiding under known screen names.
12:14pm: I think it was "more own ticket" = "moron ticket."
Let's see if I am correct. 8:31am or Kool-Aid?
Brother D: thanks - I'm ready...
I totally agree Kool Aid. Those postings are very obviously the work of the exact same person. He is the one who has been doing a lot of "God's work" over there and loving every minute of it!
Yes Tanya. The zombie sees itself as a "moron". Poor thing. lol
That's the way I viewed the slip.
Very good catch! Moron-ticket, I would not have seen that. lol..pretty good. Classic slip! TKS
I'm waiting for Bakker to start selling "Moonshine", genuine Ozark Moutain Corn Medicine, he sells everything else and he'd sure have us as customers.
... but what if the frog started to sell the "truth"?
Brother Dortch. That article from People magazine says it all. Why did it take so many years for us to see the truth?
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20121210,00.html
Apr 13/4:34p: He's a little brown noser.
You want to know something Uncle Jessie@104pm you have the same interesting habit as Zach@827am. You both possess the fault of run-on sentence structure? Interesting isn't it? lol
Take a look for yourself zombies (or should I say zombie?)
Zach said...
To Jessica, I get this feeling your hot, You should take some time and visit me here at Morningside.
Uncle Jessie and Bo. said...
I'm waiting for Bakker to start selling "Moonshine", genuine Ozark Moutain Corn Medicine, he sells everything else and he'd sure have us as customers.
You're a LOSER Zach.
Nice try KaK. But that is the most common "stylistic error" which exists. You need to get out more. Stop analyzing every sentence. It is going to drive you nuts.
I bet you typed that comment with the greatest of care Zach. Didn't you? LOL
Nice try.
stylistic error?
hahahahahahahaha .... you had to google "run-on sentence structure" to find that!
LOL
You're a Moronside Loser Zach!
LOL LOL LOL
Got tired of telling me that I work in a pizza joint?
Classic case of "kettle calling the pot black".^^^^^^^^^^
Oh great. You're back again^^^.
LOL
@1:12. What is "truth"?
uh ... Pontius?
( I'm whispering so Pontius doesn't hear me. lol Pontius is really fat zach but I'll just pretend he isn't )
You were asking me about my statement below?
... but what if the frog started to sell the "truth"?
Truth is the opposite to what frog currently does on his freak tv show which is to lie.
@3:00: Very, very poor answer! No dino cake for you. You don't even get to lick the batter. Try again. 3 shots for a quarter.
Loosen up Pontius I was dead on. ;)
Not hungry, you have my dino cake, I think I will make a cake tomorrow, see how I feel I guess, maybe I make a pizza instead.
Be sure to add a lot of crow to it:)
... and add a topping of sour grapes to the next pizza you have. ;)
Harmony or the person spamming links as Harmony: please stop. If you want publicity for your video, start your own website or ask Pastor Jim to help you. Maybe he'll let you play the video during the show while he's taking a breather from telling us why God wants us to buy his generator. Ormaybe he'll just tell you no because he needs that time to sell product.
I'm beginning work on a new post this week.
This is Ron. Last post from me today unless from my official account.
to Joe C, at 6:23. What do you want; to sleep all day? I thought you folks in them parts always get up early to milk the cows. Think of it as a new fangled type of rooster contraption. Lazy Bones!!!
To the poster at
April 14, 2012 1:24 PM,
The truth has always been out there but few people have gone out of their way to find it. As Ron's blog so readily proves, the brainwashed followers of Jim Bakker simply have chosen to ignore the facts and launch out on a witch hunt against any and everyone who does not agree with them.
Those who are just now finding out about the truth figured since Jim was convicted and sent to prison that he was out of business and would not be back. I imagine most working class people in America, who work during the day, are still unaware that Bakker has set up shop again and is selling "Lifetime Partnerships" once more as well as his other junk in the name of Jesus. The homosexual aspect of Jim Bakker's life is a well known fact as his top aide, David Taggart, was a known homosexual and was sentenced, along with his (Taggart's) brother, to prison for their involvement in the fraud. John Wesley Fletcher, who arranged the tryst Bakker had with Jessica Haun, has admitted he, personally, had homosexual sex with Bakker three times. Please read, if you can, the Penthouse Magazine artice called "The Devil In Jim Bakker--His Homosexual Lover and Pimp Tell All." There is a mountain of other evidence that is available to the public regarding the notorious frog fraudster in Blue Eye.
As time goes on, you are going to see and hear more and more about the secret life of greed, deception, and sin that consumes the very existance of Jim Bakker. Some of the most faithful and loyal readers and contributors to this very blog are Bakker's own employees, family, and friends. Author Charles Shepard spent years interviewing such people for what later turned out to be a Pulitzer Prize winning account of what will go down in the history of Christianity as being one of the most sinful and crime ridden liars and fraudsters the faith has ever known.
If you agree with me, I recommend you file a complaint with the Trinity Foundation which is an organization dedicated to exposing and combating religious fraud. There is a link to them underneath Bakker's photo in the upper right portion of this page. There are many more things you can also do and check out the other direct links Ron has assembled there too.
I appreciate your comment and would like to issue a sincere thank-you to all readers who are committed to doing all they can to put an end to this three ring circus in Blue Eye. Stay tuned. In the coming months I am going to present even more details of the life and times of Jim Bakker that will absolutely shock you.
I loved Faker Bakker trying to scare the mindless bobbleheads with a phoney storm when the studio lights dimmed low and the lightning, thunder, and siren sound effects started. It was one of the funniest moments ever and Rickys reaction was priceless!
How many years has zach been a full time, year round student at the fake junior college? Lol.
Due to poor grades; Zack must be forced to repeat semesters. That's the only thing I can figure why it would take him 10 years to finish a 2 year study.
Don't let anyone deceive you. Associating with bad people will ruin decent people.
1 Corinthians 15:33 GWT
Now this is really telling about the Christian students at the compound...listen what she says about
Brandon...It is too funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6kNt4EBOVk&feature=relmfu
To Anonymous @ 6:10
I agree with you, associating with bad people does ruin decent people. I am so glad I got away from the wicked people at Morningside also.
6:10pm anon: and the bad people are ______ because ______.
You need to be more specific, if you want your post to make sense.
I tried to post this on Friday but apparently it didn't get through for some reason so I'll try to recreate as much of it as I can.
Since some have noticed that I work for the show now, I thought I'd share some things.
I was aware of all of you before I started working for Morningside. I've actually read quite a few posts of Ron's and your comments. Obviously, I don't agree with much of your positions or I wouldn't have taken a job with the ministry but I was not unaware of your concerns. For example, I don’t put as much stock in the 23 year old news articles that Brother Dortch mentions as being applicable to now. I know I’m completely different than I was 23 years ago and I’ll bet most of you are as well. It’s possible Kool-Aid Kid wasn’t even born then if he/she’s really a kid. ;) I’m not going to say you’re not entitled to your opinions but from what I’ve seen so far I haven’t seen things that back up your contentions.
I can't speak of who else may read the blog but I'll admit I've seen it and did before I was a staff member and so it wouldn’t make sense to lie and say that I haven’t seen it since I began working there.
For the record, I'm not TBC or any of the anonymous posters. I hate anonymous comments on my site and so I wouldn't do it on another site. If I have something to say, like this post, I'll just say it with my name on it. Some may not believe this is me or that I'm not also using anonymous postings but Ron will verify I e-mailed him so at the very least you can prove I am who I claim to be.
I can't comment on most of the things you've shared here because I simply wasn't there for most of it. So I can’t really comment on the issues involving former residents, students or employees because I wouldn't have anything to add that has basis in fact.
Yes, www.mustardseedyear.com is my personal blog and it’s not connected to Morningside in any way. Everything written there is from me with no input at all from anyone employed at Morningside. I’m open to discuss matters of faith so you’re all welcome to participate in discussions there if you wish to do it. I won’t allow some of the insulting statements that Ron allows (especially the insults toward the students) but I’m open to discussion on spiritual issues. You can e-mail me as well if there’s something you’d want to talk about.
Now…to the people who are “defending” Pastor Jim and the rest of the Morningside folks using anonymous postings insulting those critical of the ministry…KNOCK IT OFF. You are not being representative of Christ and you’re doing nothing but proving out the positions and beliefs of those who think Christians are nothing more than loud mouth bullies who are too blind to see the world around them. It doesn’t matter if the people on this site who are critical use anonymous postings or nick names that hide their real identity. You can’t control them and you can’t force them to stop or change opinions. You can control yourself and how you reflect on Christ. Start acting like Christ and stop the petty childish crap like the insults at some of the posters here.
And for the record, since it’s likely someone here is researching me based on the Google Analytics of my website, I’ll just state here what I state there. I’ve been divorced twice. I had an addiction to pornography that in 2000 had me thrown out of the ministry. I was out of work for a year before the opportunity arose to handle social media for the Jim Bakker Show. I’m not perfect, I don’t claim to be and don’t sit here judging all of you. I’m very big on radical grace and believing that God wants us all to forgive each other the way He has forgiven us. I know He’s had to forgive a lot from me so I try to offer it to others.
FYI…Barry Williams didn’t appear on the show due to a scheduling conflict. I have no idea if they’re rescheduling him since that’s not my department.
Kool Aid:
The poster, Jason Wert, is the individual in the red shirt you inquired about.
Welcome Jason! I would like to say something negative about your 8:48 posting here but I really can not. It sounds like you are an honest fellow and the fact that you were not around during the infamous PTL years is probably the singlemost reason you can work for Jim Bakker now and have a clear mind because of it.
I heard Jim announce on the show you will be doing some social networking for the ministry but I also heard him say Sasha was in charge of that department so I am a bit confused.
That having been said, I will not fault you with what you just posted. If all Morningside/Bakker supporters were exactly like you I would have a totally different view of the ministry than I do now--although there will always be ethics, morality and greed issues.
I would, but can't, agree with you that Bakker is a changed man today. That is not your fault. The Jim Bakker I see today is an EXACT CARBON COPY of the Jim Bakker from 23 years ago, right down to the fact that he collects funds for building before he has the slightest idea (other than his own) of how what he is building will fit in the general landscape and government who will regulate it. He also is one of the biggest liars I have ever had the misfortune of ever seeing via broadcast media.
I have spent a lot of time critizing the fake "college," as Bakker calls it, but you will notice I have left Theron & Lenora alone. It would serve no purpose to critize either one of them since I feel that would be counter productive. Except for the graduation show, they have remained in the background and somebody will always have their job and very many, in fact, have since the fake school began. I wish them both well.
Anyway, I hope you continue your honesty as you have just posted it here and, if you can make a few bucks from Bakker off of your chores here, knock yourself out.
I must honestly say one thing here and one thing only. You have chosen one hell of a way to make a buck. Nobody, except you, is being paid to be here. That fact alone will always make you suspect in the minds of anti-Bakkerites everywhere. If you can stand the heat, this is the kitchen...and good luck!
P.S.--Regarding those "anonymous postings insulting those critical of the ministry"
If you would like to discover who is posting them, on behalf of Bakker, I would suggest looking in the direction of one person. He's a fat kid with two earrings and thinks he's the boss over there. Have a nice day!
The Bakker machine wants to sidetrack and control the dialog on this forum and exchange it for cheap, trashy comments like the comments posted to me by a zombie called Zack.
Or, maybe Bakker posted the comment remembering the good old days when he had eyes for another Jessica.
Jim Bakker wants to control everything he touches and he obviously wants to control the dialog on this forum too. It is a desperate man taking desperate measures.
Jason,
"I know I’m completely different than I was 23 years ago and I’ll bet most of you are as well."
Completely different? Right, just like the frog is completely different. If you stick with the term "completely" then I would say you probably haven't. It would take a tremendous self-awareness to do that Jason. Some of the old you is still there and that would not make you completely changed.
Oh, you have a very good "radio" voice. All the best with that.
Mr. Wert,
You seem to have some dilemma. You wanted a ministering job and bakker presented one to you. The dilemma is that neither the JBS or morningside are actual Christian ministries. They are fronts to perpetuate the bakker fraud. He is not the same person he was 23 years ago, he is much more offensive today. When a felon goes to prison he is supposed to learn from that experience, not get out of jail and go back to his fraudulent ways.
I believe you will find it difficult to be an ethical Christian and continue to take a pay check from bakker. Particularly if you think about where that money comes from.catirelectenta
Jason Wert, 8:48 pm
I have to say I respect you for coming on this blog, having the guts to use your real name, so I won’t be bashing you !
The only thing I didn’t agree with was your statement “I don’t put as much stock in the 23 year old news articles that Brother Dortch mentions as being applicable to now. I know I’m completely different than I was 23 years ago.” Most of us on this blog are older, we remember Jimbo from before, I forgave him after prison I even hoped he learned something from his experience. But then he started up Morningside, with a fake media school crying, scaring older people to give money, just like he did 23 years ago I realized this leopard didn’t change it's spots!
I just watched the first half of the Return of Tammy Sue episode. It is so incredibly weird, awkward, creepy, etc that I could not watch the whole thing in one sitting. One of Tammy Sue's sons, whose head is twice as big as it should be in proportion to his body, is jammed on the couch between his grandpa and his step-grandma and looks like he wants to get up and move, but he's trapped! Poor waterhead kid. I like the fact that the opening voice-over refers to the show as a Bakker family reunion, then Jim tells us while fake-crying that Jamie wouldn't come on the show because he didn't want to hurt his Dad's ministry... "I would only hurt your show, Dad, because I'm too controversial!!" Whatever. That's obviously a phony cover story. Jamie's real words were probably, "I'll come on your show when you stop using it as a survivalist home-shopping channel". At first I thought they were all assembled to stage an intervention on Tammy Sue for her life threatening addiction to Chee-Toes, but no.
Just when it's starting to get interesting they cut away to talk about a $1700 solar-power generator and some gizmo that works for two hours for every 15 minutes that you crank the handle on it, failing to take note of the fact that most of Jim's viewers couldn't crank the handle for a full minute, much less fifteen. OMG this show is so surreal and just plain wrong that words aren't adequate to describe what Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now would have referred to as ... "The horror... the... horror."
I just watched the first half of the Return of Tammy Sue episode. It is so incredibly weird, awkward, creepy, etc that I could not watch the whole thing in one sitting. One of Tammy Sue's sons, whose head is twice as big as it should be in proportion to his body, is jammed on the couch between his grandpa and his step-grandma and looks like he wants to get up and move, but he's trapped! Poor waterhead kid. I like the fact that the opening voice-over refers to the show as a Bakker family reunion, then Jim tells us while fake-crying that Jamie wouldn't come on the show because he didn't want to hurt his Dad's ministry... "I would only hurt your show, Dad, because I'm too controversial!!" Whatever. That's obviously a phony cover story. Jamie's real words were probably, "I'll come on your show when you stop using it as a survivalist home-shopping channel". At first I thought they were all assembled to stage an intervention on Tammy Sue for her life threatening addiction to Chee-Toes, but no. Just when it's starting to get interesting they cut away to talk about a $1700 solar-power generator and some gizmo that works for two hours for every 15 minutes that you crank the handle on it, failing to take note of the fact that most of Jim's viewers couldn't crank the handle for a full minute, much less fifteen. OMG this show is so surreal and just plain wrong that words aren't adequate to describe what Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now would have referred to as ... "The horror... the... horror."
Oh here we go! If you feel the comments were trashy why do you post such a seductive picture? Typical flirt. I just thought you would like to team up with a real man and not the Kool-aid-kid. You're like the girl who wears a see through blouse and gets pissed if men stare. Am I right in my assumptions?
AFTER PTL:
Tammy Faye stood by Bakker through all his scandals.
In 1992, while Bakker was still in prison she filed for divorce, saying in a letter to the New Covenant Church in Orlando Florida:
"For years I have been pretending that everything is all right, when in fact I hurt all the time....I cannot pretend anymore."
Above comment directed to Jessica. Everyone else please ignore. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The frog has gained the confidence of this man Jason. That’s obvious.
Yes I agree with all you say Unknown. Do your best to get through to the end of that freak show that I like to call "The Moronside Munster" episode.
Jessica tear the "porno" zombie at 829am a new one. lol
Back again zombie^^^?
Ron, can you confirm that was really Jason Wert on the above post at 8:48?
Anonymous @ 8:33
I don't know what comment you are addressing. If it's my comment made by Tammy Faye it has nothing to do with Jessica. Like a good little zombie you twist everything to defend your little leader
The point I want everyone take from my posting of Tammy Faye's own words is everything about Jim, Tammy, their god, and PTL was pretend. "I have been pretending...I cannot pretend anymore."
Jim will always be a shallow, egocentric, narcissistic creep. He has no conscience so going back to conning was to be expected. No matter how you slice it Jim is phony and hasn't changed! Jim still uses and abuses people. Tammy Faye said "I hurt all the time." Any doctor will verify the number one cause of cancer is stress. I didn't care for Tammy Sue but at least behind the fake eyelashes and everything else fakker bakker, she had some heart and soul, I can't say the same for Jim!
The Trial Of Jessica
We call Mrs. Westboro (Anon@829am)to the witness stand.
"Oh here we go!"
Do you swear or affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you god?
"I do"
Do you see Jessica in the court room?
"I do see her. Shes the one over there ... the seductive one."
Okay.
"Look! She's even flirting with Kool-Aid Kid. Unbelievable!"
Kool-Aid Kid? The person over there?
"Yes that's him ... but he's really not a man. Well, not a real man like John Wayne or Jim Bakker."
"Oh and look at that lady over there! She's wearing a see-through blouse! Burn the witch!"
Trail over. No Dino cake for you Mrs. Westboro. ;((
9:24,
Another example of the fine, upstanding people Jim has on his team.
Give yourselves a round of applause for winning the "Biggest Jerks of the Year Award", you Bakker scum!
Am I understanding this correctly, did Jim hire Jason Wert as his PR guy? If this is true why would a man of God with integrity need a PR person? Is God not sufficient in defending Jim's reputation? That is the problem God is not pleased with Jim! The best PR person on the planet won't be able to help Jim. More of the Bakker supporters money going to waste on this person's salary. I'm not giving a opinion on Jason personally, just saying there is no point in trying to justify or rationalize what Jim is doing. The job position is not necessary. No matter how you spin the story it steal reeks of theft, embezzling, cooking the books, etc. You cannot scare people out of their money without God stepping in and stopping it. So no matter how Jim dresses up this scam, it's still going to be nothing but filthy rags in both Gods eyes, and true believers eyes!
I do appreciate Jason telling the so called "christians" defending Jim to knock off the insults. They are another reason Jim has no credibility in my eyes. It's not just what Jim says and does, it's also what the people supporting him say and do. A legitimate ministry with never allow such filth directed at non believers. For Jim to say he wants more tv stations and a broader audience, I ask what for? The people supporting Jim with their hateful talk and behavior here is what keeps people out of churches.
No PR consultant can make good from all the damage done to the cause of Christ by Jim and his followers.
@9:24am- "Trial" not "Trail", isn't it ironic that the kid will fault folks for errors, yet; he is the biggest offender in spelling.
I read some of the Mustardseed Blog and the 8:48pm post is similar in writing style, enough that I am comfortable believing that it is Jason Wert.
Jason: thank you for posting. I agree, you and I likely do not share many beliefs when it comes to Jim Bakker - that does not diminish my appreciation that you wrote a respectful post... twice (one of my posts got lost, too, I know that can happen).
I see the point you made, Jason, that you were not around Morningside for much of what we discuss.
I do not agree that means you cannot comment - some things, for example, the Media program/"school" and the fact that it is not a real school does not need physical presence at Morningside to confirm. You only need to know what a real, accredited school offers, then look at what Master's Media offers, and see the difference. Or, the fact that Jim Bakker sold lifetime memberships in the PTL days, and is doing the same thing now - that does not require physical presence to be aware of.
But, you came here and posted under your name, and decided to be up-front about your position and history, and I won't fault that.
Going forward, you *are* in a position to be able to comment.
It is absolutely your choice, whether you come back and add a rationale voice in support of Jim Bakker, and address one or more of the many questions in this blog/comments, or not.
Regardless of what occurs in future, thank you for your 8:48pm post.
@8:29am - and you are like the person who says if a woman gets raped, she must have done something to deserve it. Perhaps she wore revealing clothes and her "no" was actually flirtation, because deep down she truly wanted to be with a "real man."
Am I right in my assumptions?
Typical sick thinking, 8:29am. Well done.
Back at 11:17. Yes, you are 100% correct.
To Mr. Run-On Sentence
hahahahahahaha ...
You're back again bakker zombie, ya sorry I made a spelling error, it will probably happen agian (oops)because you are perfect and I'm not, so how was your pizza with the exrta topping of sour grapes, good I bet.
Not like the pizzas you make,but you've madee them for years. Ever since you flunked out of HS I'll bet.
@11:21am - if I understand your post correctly, you are saying that a woman who wore revealing clothes, and got raped, deserved to be raped because she wore revealing clothes... "how else do you explain it?"
Well, "how else do you explain it," I'm going to hope that you are trolling, and only saying inflammatory things to get a reaction.
I won't waste my time addressing this topic further - at best, you are trolling and at worst, you believe rape is OK.
Either way, you are not worth it.
Thank you all for the friendly welcome.
Brother Dortch...I'm responsible for maintaining the social media associated with Jim's show. Sasha is the Master's Media student responsible for the social media accounts for GenerationNow. I'll be available to help out if they need it but I don't manage the GenerationNow accounts.
And to the anonymous person...I'm not handling the PR for Jim. I'm basically making sure all the parts work in the right places for pages, etc.
Kool-Aid Kid...you're right that in the literal translation I'm not completely changed. I feel I'm completely changed because I wasn't a follower of Christ 23 years ago. Actually, I was the kid in college who took pleasure in pointing out to all the "Christian" kids the ways they were falling short of their professed savior. At times I think I knew their faith better than they knew it. I believe that was part of the reason I didn't truly believe in Christ until my mid-20s.
But I still have issues that I work on trying to improve upon. For example, I still use bad language when my beloved Philly sports teams choke (which happens way too much.)
Tanya, I've seen your concerns and I understand why you believe what you believe. I'll say that I've seen the kids working and they really are learning how to run the equipment, edit video, etc.
Have a great Sunday, everyone. I'll be outside on the porch enjoying the rain showers moving through the area. Hopefully all of you can have a relaxing day as well.
Oh...and the poster @8:29am...that's completely out of line. Not even remotely amusing. You owe an apology.
Hey stupid bakker zombie@1132am I'm the one who's supposed to make the spelling mistakes! You silly thing!
Please continue to make comments like this, okay, then I will know it's you, got it, good.
I will not defame the character of Mr. Wert in this blog and that is what I want him to know. That is why I began this posting with that statement. There is one thing I would like to know and it is important to see exactly where Mr. Wert stands on this issue. So, at the risk of offending Mr. Wert, I hope he understands where I am going with this.
Mr. Wert:
Will you please answer the following questions please.
1) Do you believe that homosexuality is something that a person is born with and cannot "turn on and off like a light switch?"
2) Are you homosexual?
3) Have you ever, even once, engaged in sex with a man in any fashion?
4) When you were a porn addict, was the porn you were addicted to, that was causing you to achieve sexual gradification, porn which showed sex between two men?
Again, I mean no personal disrespect to you. I am asking to see where you stand in relation to the well known life style choices of Jim Bakker. I will look forward to your response. Thanks!
To 11:36. He should apologize when Bakker apologizes for all his crazy statements. Oh, but I quess that's different. This guy used words while Bakker performed the actions. Remove your blinders.
Thanks for responding Jason.
Philly fan? You have my deepest sympathy. ;)
To anonymous 8:29 a.m. So you assume that the picture of Jessica is to flirt with old or hormone driven young anonymous zombies?
I don't find the picture of Jessica seductive, but it seems to make you zombies nervous.
The picture is there as a reminder of how Jim Bakker abused the power of his position and what he did to an innocent church secretary who was under his authority.
Zombie take your toe out of your mouth and pay attention. If you want to define flirt and seduction, look over your hump (I mean shoulder)and check out Lori Bakker reigning sexpot. She is mincing and moaning live, every day for the males and setting an example for the girls. You zombies even posted on this blog that the Moronside males think she is sexy.
This is how Bakker and hs gang functions. Its the very same thing as PTL (known as Pass The Loot). There won't be a Jessica Hahn in the last days of his life only because he is too OLD and lumpy!
Someone named Jason(?) said none of the past mistakes were relevant today?
Are you kidding me?? This is 2012 and there is an Internet. Have any of you heard of "Twitter" or Facebook?
Well, Good Luck Jason..keep pushing that rock up the mountain and when it rolls back on top of you, remember your doing this for raggedy ass Bakker not Jesus.
Sidebar..the zombies used these comments to try take the heat off of Bakker.
Past mistake are always relevant if no actions have been taken to correct or fix them.
Rippppppppppp!
lol
Jessica, yes the tactics they use are obvious. Artificial and deception are words very dear to them.
Apr14@2;00: Don't fret, even Jesus could not answer that question when it was put to him>
Jason is the first Bakker supporter I have any respect for. I really don't know why simple questions are so intimidating to the Bakker supporters. Time will tell if Jason is the stand-up guy he seems to be. Hopefully he'll keep answering fair questions without attacking and insulting anyone he doesn't agree with.
Oh no, Here goes Jim!
He is using church money to attempt to buy himself some good publicity on Ron's blog. He will stop at nothing to further continue his church bought lifestyle. The presence of a store bought blogger will do absolutely nothing to change him from the heathen he has become. Nothing.
I respect folks like Grandma Char Groupie who posted above. She has the intelligence to see through "smoke and mirrors" to the inner core of a poster. If you can't convince them with fact dazzle em with bullshit. Fortunately, "you can fool some of the people..........."
Mr. Wert,
If you are accepting pay from any of the bakker fake enterprises then you are in effect profiting from fraud. If your job is to put a positive spin on everything bakker, you will be unsuccessful. You simply cannot ignore his lies, even if you don't like the facts it doesn't mean they don't exist.
Jim Bakker is worried about how many complaints are being sent to The Trinity Foundation, the state Attorney General, the IRS and other authorities. Even his own next door neighbors have had their fill of him. You cannot buy your way out of a situation like this. He has only his greedy self to blame and, if you support Ron and his blog, go the the links he has provided under Bakkers photo on the top of this page and file your own complaint. Don't let Jim think he can buy his way out of being a con artist. That is the worst thing you can do. He will face the music one day in the future and, hopefully, that day will be soon.
Mr Wert: "If you lay with dogs, you're gonna garner fleas".
I will submit to every one of you that the way to correct the situation Jim Bakker has gotten himself into is not to "buy his way out of it". It is to not allow it to ever happen in the first place. It is too late for that to happen now and yes, Bakker is starting to get worried now.
I am also very interested in seeing how Mr. Wert will answer Brother D's questions concerning homosexuality.
Wert has a "let bygone be bygones" attitude. Forgiving is one thing but to forget another. He might have good intentions, but; as they say the path to hell is paved with good intentions.
Still waiting for a response to Bro Dortch's questions....
Jason says he's "seen the kids working and they really are learning how to run the equipment, edit video, etc." Is that the intent of the Master Commission Program?
I want to bring to everyone's attention the Master Commission that Jim and Lori first presented to the public was the Master's Commission International Program (MCIN). The description for that program is as follows:
Master's Commission International Network of Affiliates was formed to preserve the integrity and purity of the heart with which this intense discipleship-training program was created. Our Mission is "To know God and to make Him Know." It is the desire of the MCIN to help the local church raise up a generation of world changers, recklessly abandoned to the cause of Christ. To do this, each Master's Commission MUST be a MINISTRY of a LOCAL CHURCH, NOT a PARA-CHURCH organization. Master's Commission is affecting a generation of young adults who are trained to reach a world with the Word of God as their foundation, prayers as their passion and evangelism as their battle cry.
What is the Jim Bakker ministry? I believe it would be defined as a Para-Church organization. Do the students at Morningside spend the first year on the structure set forth by MCIN? Those kids are on cameras, the show and in the editing booth. When do they learn to "reach the world with the Word of God as their foundation, prayer as their passion and evangelism as their battle cry".
I don't believe these kids are learning how to "take the Gospel" as their words and behavior prove on this blog and on the You Tube videos.
No one has addressed the deceit behind using the Master's Commission name for Jim's training program. Did the people who sent their kids to Morningside expecting their kids to be enrolled in a real Master's Program get reimbursed for their expenses when they find out it's not a authentic MCIN program? Someone is liable, either Jim or the MCIN for fraud in promoting this program at Morningside. If you look at the MCIN's rules for using the registered trade name Of Master's Commission there is a breach of trust or a breach of contract in promoting the program as Jim does.
Hopefully Mr. Wert gets the hell out of the compound before he gets the "bakker zombie brainwashing" like TBC.
The door for Jason opened to the Bucket through a post from:
Hash like you smoke said...
Leadies and Germs,
I present to you TBC/one of the anons: http://www.mustardseedyear.com/about/
April 12, 2012 11:09 PM
... and Jason appeared here on the Bucket:
Jason Wert said...
I tried to post this on Friday but apparently it didn't get through for some reason so I'll try to recreate as much of it as I can.
April 14, 2012 8:48 PM
Was it by chance or design? Hash like you smoke has kind of disappeared so it makes you wonder what that was all about.
What I think? Jason is a "buffer". Bakker's cronies see this site hit the big numbers. He has to respond, or feels he has to. Hence the Jason all of a sudden. Numbers speak volumns! Nothing worst thathearing the phrase: "we are legends". Jason is the spin master extrodinaire. Be advised.
Jason - on the TV show, we sometimes get a glimpse of students working the cameras. I do not doubt that the students contribute to the making of the Jim Bakker show.
My point remains: working on the Jim Bakker show, in the absence of a certificate/diploma/degree from an accredited school, is highly unlikely to get anyone a job in media.
When you send a resume in to apply for a job, there is a critical section: "Education" - where certificates/diplomas/degrees are listed. In this day, with the competitive job market, many employers use this section to weed out candidates. You don't get past the start line unless you have a certain type of education qualification - what that type of qualification is depends on the industry.
Jim Bakker calls his set-up a "school,"and a "college," (among other things - e.g., Master's Media or Master's Commission - depending on his mood) - but there are no hallmarks of a college: no set application deadline, no set beginning/end date, no course descriptions, no outline of credit requirements, no accredited teachers/professors. Students "graduate" more than once simply based on the time they spend at Morningside - real schools don't do this (unless you are getting undergraduate and graduate degrees from the same school, that is a different story). The information/application package states there is an "academic element" - you need more than just an "element" of academia to function in a real job: solid verbal and written communication skills, good research/self-directed learning skills, knowledge of computer programs such as Word, Excel, PowerPoint etc, etc.
I'm glad to hear that Jason understands why I believe what I believe. Now, if there is any evidence that what I believe is in error, i.e., evidence that Jim Bakker is running an actual college, as he says he is, I would like to see it/hear about it.
So far, all we have is the YouTube channel - which demonstrates poor technical skills and questionable choices.
Note: the Jim Bakker show itself also demonstrates technical issues - losing focus, shaky cameras, choppy edits, etc. I acknowledge the students are learning and things like this are an artifact of learning... but again, in real schools, students are trained to a certain level of expertise, and then they progress to projects like a live show.
It would be funny if Jason was Joe C.
JASON WERT FOR MAYOR!
Always remember that Mr. Wert is the only commenter paid to be here. It is his job (funded by selling crappy products to old people by lying and scaring them).
I think someone needs to give the generator NOW kids some better training (other than how to take out the trash, lol.)
I wonder how efficient a solar powered" anything" really is. Seems like all I see lately are "wind Powered" devices; turbine type. I think I'd really look into one before I invested. Just saying.
Jason Wert for PAID HELPER TO BLOG POSITIVELY ABOUT JIM BAKKER--Nothing more, nothing less!
Brother Dortch has posted four questions above to Jason on the topic of homosexuality. Still waiting for an answer. Thank-you.
You're gonna have a long wait. No way is he going to answer those questions. If he does, it be peculiar in itself.
I think we have all known that this blog has been read by Bakker-followers for sometime now. We pose questions like where is the plaque, the following week Jim gives viewers an answer…a stupid one but an answer. Then we complain about no accreditation in his school last week they give the students certificates not real ones just cheap ones printed from Microsoft. I do respect Jason Wert for coming on here, I am also sure he won’t be allowed to answer the hard questions. If Morningside did have a PR person I would tell them maybe they should take down the Utube videos of Sascha calling Brandon their token, or Zach making crank calls asking if people pooped their pants because he did Ugh!
Something I don't understand here. Why is Jason hired to be Jim's "social media" guy when the so-called "students" and "graduates" are there? Isn't media, including social media, exactly what they're supposed to be learning all this time?
What do you think about this, Jason? Shouldn't $8k per semester, times many semesters, have qualified the "college students" to take care of something as simple as "social media"?
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