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Saturday, March 24, 2012

Jim Bakker scribbles on Zach, talks junk with Bill Whaley part 3

Gord Pedersen: 'How does that Silver Sol shit work again?'
This is the final post for this episode. If you haven't already read the first part, please click here for part 1 of Jim Bakker scribbles on Zach, talks junk with Bill Whaley.

I wasn't aware that Dr Gordon Pedersen was the man behind Silver Sol, but he's the one in the commercial so now he owns it in my book. He tells us some gobbledy-gook about his miracle tonic, explaining that the particles of silver are so tiny that they can 'enter a red blood cell'. He says this is good because there's nothing to 'irritate or agitate', and that the particles of silver are just there to 'kill the germs'. I haven't been following the Silver Sol scene, but this sounds very, very stupid to me. Why would anyone voluntarily ingest something that is going to enter their blood cells and 'kill the germs'? How does silver know the difference between a germ and a blood cell? This sounds like an experiment the Japanese would do on Allied POWs to see how long they'd survive. Why would anyone even waste their time with this? It's so stupid it's laughable.

This is what happens when you follow Jim Bakker's advice
I did a little looking on this Dr Gordon Pedersen. Don't let the white lab coat fool you, because Gordon Pedersen is not a medical doctor. He has a PhD from a toxicology program which sounds promising, but in this press release he's billed as the “Anti-Aging Master Formulator” which causes my quack-alert siren to whoop loudly inside my head. I don't feel very comfortable here, Mr Pedersen. Didn't this silver stuff turn some guy's skin blue like a smurf not too long ago? I think I'll pass on your miracle tonic this time around. My body already does a good enough job 'killing the germs' and you know what they say: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll tell you what though: When I'm on my deathbed, I'll take a swig and see if it does anything for me. Does it cure dying?

Jim Bakker's Blue Skin Ointment w/ bonus Amoeba Pot, $88
Zach announces a Silver Sol package for $600, then Sasha announces a case of 50 for $900. These packages come with Neti Pots. Why hasn't Jim told us the scary stories involving Neti Pots and brain-eating amoebas? Hasn't he heard about the people who have died after using them? It's strange to think that nobody on that stage has heard about the Neti Pot amoebas, and it makes me wonder if Jim's hiding the truth a little bit there so as not to cut into his own product sales. Blue skin coloring and brain-eating amoebas...that's two strikes against this Silver Sol package already. Yet Jim Bakker is still selling it with no mention at all about these serious risks? Doesn't sound very honest to me, Pastor Bakker.

Lori says "Wow!" while Jim gulps air
We're out of the commercial and back to the Junk Man Show with Jim Bakker. Jim asks a question designed to lead Whaley into a product demonstration, but the Junk Man's having none of it. These are direct quotes:
Jim:I've read that you help street people stay warm...One of the biggest problems people are going to have is when the power goes out. How do you keep from freezing?”
Junk Man:Let's go to the street first.”
Jim:Okay.
Jim just has to sit there and take it. He's on the couch, leaning on his knee and staring at Whaley, but he's powerless to do anything. The old coot just keeps going on. For her part, Lori loves listening to this guy. She turns to the camera and mouths the word 'Wow!' as Whaley talks.

Whaley grabs his papers as Jim dreams of a happy place
Uh oh, Whaley just stepped over into la-la land. Now he's talking governmental conspiracy against the poor, the homeless, and the 'working people'. He's using the fingers on his hands to count off each targeted group. Jim, you need to step in and stop this now. A man uncovering conspiracy at this level is a man that the government will do everything to silence. The FBI probably has a file as a thick as a book on this Whaley character, hell there's probably agents in your audience right now keeping tabs on him. You don't need this kind of heat Jim, you don't need it!


The Junk Kook spices things up with conspiracy talk
Whaley has now reached for a stack of papers to expose a Senate Bill designed, according to the Junk Kook, to outlaw people from growing gardens. Lori's little mind has been blown by this conspiracy. We hear her off-camera saying, "Unbelievable. Unbelievable". With his stack of papers in one hand, Whaley employs use of his other hand to count off even more targeted groups. He's talking farming, saying something about us controlling the food. He then says, 'Guess who else we control?' Then bam, an edit arrives just in time. Just in time to save Whaley's life, and possibly everyone at Morningside. Whatever information he had was bound to uncover conspiracy at the highest levels of government. They will stop at nothing, Bill, nothing. Now I understand why you live 'off the grid'.

The Junk Kook's audio was cut. What secrets did he expose?
The edit was abrupt, and now it goes straight to Bakker. Jim feeds into Whaley's conspiracy a little bit, talking about some weird government crackdown on an Amish farmer selling raw milk. The camera shows Whaley with a smirk on his face while he points to his papers and speaks, but there's no sound because it's an edit job. Wow, I wonder how long he droned on for before the kids cut him off in the editing room? How much more conspiracy is lying on the Jim Bakker Show cutting room floor? Maybe Jim Bakker himself is part of the conspiracy to silence the Junk Kook...you ever think of that one, Bill?

Finally, Bakker has taken back a little control. He moves from the Amish farmer straight into Lori's House, telling us that he's being called 'evil' for building a home to save babies. No Jim, that's not why you are called evil. You are called evil because you prey on the elderly and mentally-incompetent, earning their trust specifically so you can take their money. You are called evil not because you are building a home to save babies, Jim, but because you lie about why people call you evil.

Bakker: 'Oh my God, I've invited a lunatic onto my show.'
Jim turns back to Bill and pleads with him, “We can't get political. They'll put me away, Bill.” That's Jim's way of saying, 'Knock off the soapbox shit and get to the trinkets'. Bakker asks the Junk Kook how we can stay warm if the power grid goes down. Hey Bill, I'll take this one for you. Jim, the secret is layers. Thermals, jackets, whatever you have in the closet. You know the way you're dressed when you go outside in the cold? Just dress like that inside. Add a blanket if you need to. Burn some wood in a fireplace, maybe even roast some marshmallows! Next question please.


Whaley pouts after Jim shoots down his conspiracy theory
The Junk Kook was still thumbing the pages of his conspiracy documents when Jim told him to knock it off. I'm pretty sure he's pissed off now because he's acting like a bratty child who was just told to sit still at a Christmas party. He's back to flopping his hands up and down on the arms of his chair, and he has a little smirk on his face. Bill Whaley, a sixty-something man who once flew choppers in Vietnam, is pouting.

The Junk Kook doesn't like being silenced. Without neighbors, he pretty much lives in silence all the time save for his dumpster divin' wife. Deep down inside, I think what Bill Whaley wants are friends, people to talk to and people to listen. Unfortunately, years of living like a mountain man have made him strange. Picking through garbage is strange. Dreaming up conspiracy is strange. If he were a kid, he could break out of that strangeness bubble and live normally like everyone else. But the Junk Kook is already into his sixties. There's no changing a man who's had that much time to become weird. So, the Junk Kook's inner desire for friendship will never be satisfied unless he finds a friend who is also strange. And that'll just make him weirder.

Bill Whaley angrily snatches bag off table
Since the Junk Kook is pouting, he didn't accept Jim's first invitation to tell us all how to keep warm. Now Jim has to really prod him into action. Jim chooses his words carefully, saying “You have so many things, I don't know which ones you want to go to first. Do you want me to pick or do you want to tell me?” That bratty child who was told to sit down is now being told to pick a present and open it while everyone watches. Whaley angrily snatches an empty plastic bread bag off the table. This guy is cracking me up, he's really pissed off that Jim told him to stop with the conspiracy crap. He hoists the bag over his head and, in a condescending tone, asks everyone on stage what they would do with it. He has such a look of disdain on his face as he asks this, he's just dying to point his finger at everyone on stage and call them dummies.

Bill Whaley: 'I'm holding gasoline in my hand you dummies.'
After a pause, Bakker says he would throw the bag away. Kevin follows the leader and says he would throw it away too. At this point, I think they want to throw Bill Whaley away with the bag too. The Junk Kook looks down his nose at us and says, “I'm holding gasoline in my hand.” Kevin Shorey feigns shock at this announcement, and Whaley reiterates that the plastic bag can be converted to gasoline. He once again holds his prized plastic bag up, and then we get a very long, awkward pause. I thought my DVR froze, but nope that's just the deafening sound of silence on stage. Whaley has completely killed any amount of viewer interest in him with his pouting act, and now he's going nuts with the bread bag. Everyone, and I mean every single person on that stage, is on the defensive with him. They've all now realized that he's a lunatic.

Whaley's 'latex glove': The bane of canines everywhere.
The plastic bag is not just gasoline, Whaley tells us. It's also a latex glove that can be used to pick up dog 'droppings'. I'm very suspicious of this statement, Bill. Out in my neck of the woods, we don't associate latex gloves with dog crap. We associate them with people crap, and more specifically, the holes where the people crap comes from. Are you bread-bagging your hands and giving rectal examinations out there in 'off-the-grid' land? And who are you examining? There are exactly two people in those woods where you live, plus one unlucky dog. Please don't tell me you're...I just...don't you dare hurt that dog, Bill.

Bill Whaley's dog being inspected for worms
Whaley goes on about the multi-use bread bag. He uses it to store butchered chickens in the freezer, and god knows what else. He also puts his skid-marked underwear, ratty t-shirts and mismatched socks in the bag so they don't get wet. What about bread, Bill, do you ever put bread in the bag?

Bill wears the bags on his feet in the wintertime. He says he puts them on his feet, then puts socks over them to keep his feet warm. You're a military man, Bill. Isn't that a recipe for trench foot? Or do you use the water generated by your sweaty, suffocating feet for brushing your teeth?

Whaley ends his childish tirade by asking a question. With his prized bag once again held up with both hands and a voice filled with utter contempt, he turns to Jim and Lori and asks, “Why would I throw it away?” As he asks, he jingles the bag ends so that the plastic makes noise.

Jim talks Whaley down off the ledge as Lori daydreams
Jim got a lot more than he bargained for with this guest. Jim is sweating, oh man is he sweating. He moves to a new question, and as he poses it he sounds like a psychiatrist trying to keep a wild-eyed mental patient from setting himself on fire.

Bakker is really shaken. He says, “Bill, what you're telling us is we can use the things around us to survive. We don't have to lay down and die.” Whaley is folding the plastic bag into a neat square as Jim speaks. Bakker looks to the audience for applause and gets it, and then we see Jim with a look of worry on his face as he gulps down a mouthful of air. Disaster averted, but what's up next?

Bill Whaley loves knowing more about garbage than we do
Whaley has lightened up now. The tension was cut by the applause, and now Bill Whaley feels respected again. He grabs another piece of garbage, an empty spaghetti sauce jar. Actually, I wouldn't classify this one as garbage if you have liquids you want to store. It depends on the liquid, of course. I might use it for pickled eggs, while the Junk Kook might use it for urine bombs. Let's see.

God, Whaley is so obnoxious. He has a way of speaking that is demeaning to all around him. Lori picks up on it subconsciously, because now she's referring to him as 'sir'. He's an asshole without justification. He tells all of us dummies that we can use the sauce jar as a measuring cup. He also says that we can use it to serve drinks in. He suggests giving it to children to drink from, so if they break it they “don't break your good stuff.” You know what I would use your glass jar for, Bill? A baseball. I would tee that sucker right up, then shatter it into a million unusable pieces with a baseball bat. Oh hey, give me that bread bag too, it'll make a great noise maker. Just blow it up full of air, hold the open side closed, then clap your hands together quickly. Pop!

A frozen Jim Bakker tries to figure a way out of this debacle
Jim is frozen solid on the couch. Lori reacts well to assholes, she likes that sort of leadership, but Jim doesn't. He's not quite sure what to do here.

Now the Junk Kook grabs a 2-liter bottle that he chopped in half. It's not chopped well, it looks like he hacked it in half with a butter knife or clipped it down with nail clippers. I also can't rule out the possibility that he had his wife bite through it. Whaley is finding his groove now. He leans back in the chair and asks, “What can you do with a 2-liter bottle?” See that's the problem, Bill, it's the way you introduce your items. Stop asking us what we can do with your garbage and just show us instead.

Plastic bottle that Whaley's wife bit in half
You ask us questions that you think we can't answer in order to make us feel small. But it's not that we can't answer them, it's that we don't really care. You deal in garbage, the stuff I toss out with a smile on my face. Whenever I have to go back into my garbage to find something that was thrown out accidentally, I don't smile. I grimace and I hold my nose, and sometimes I even ask my wife for help because it's so disgusting to me. When you pose questions designed to make people feel dumb for not knowing the ins-and-outs of the garbage heap, you fail in your quest for friendship. Normal people don't like that.

From the 2-liter bottle, Whaley says he can make a water filter, ice holder, and funnel. Bakker breaks free from his daze and jumps on the funnel idea. Jim grabs the funnel from the table and tells us how we could use it to add gas to our cars if we needed to. Does Jim not know that gas cans come with spouts? I'll go one further: Does Jim not know that funnels can be purchased for a couple dollars at Home Depot? With the dollar Jim gave Lori earlier in the show, they're already halfway down the road to funnel ownership. See how easy that is, Jim?

Papa Whaley took little Jimmy's funnel toy away from him
Whaley isn't having any of Jim's gas-can funnel crap. He takes the funnel away from Bakker like a parent taking scissors from a toddler and completely ignores Jim's suggestion. I get the feeling that the Junk Man is thinking, 'Thanks for humoring us buddy, but let's leave the survival stuff to the experts.' Jim was still talking as Whaley took the funnel back from him, he even looked to his audience for support while stammering out, “Isn't that a good..good idea?” I hate to say it, but I'm actually starting to pull for Bakker in this fight. Whaley's a total jackass and needs to be put in his place. If Bill were an ass because he doesn't like Bakker, I'd be on his side. He isn't though. Bill Whaley's an ass because Bill Whaley's an ass.

"...teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime."
Ugh, the Junk Man tells us something about poking holes in the bottle, stitching it with twine, and adding bread crumbs to make a 'minnow catcher' for fishing. What happened to you out there in that Vietnamese jungle, Bill? What did you see that's got you so spooked? You're back home in America now, Bill. You don't need to do this, we are friendlies and you are safe. You can go to the store and buy bait from an honest man who is happy to sell to you. Hell, you can even skip the bait and just buy a fish! Don't worry, you will not encounter any VC here. No land mines, no crushed glass in your Pepsi. Just relax sir and calm down. Now please tell me: Are you carrying any knives or other weapons on your person right now?

'Wait 'till the Feds get a load of my urine bombs, muhahaha!'
Whaley is still obsessing over the bottle. He's showing us how he can add one of his black-painted glass bottles inside the larger plastic bottle, fill one of the two with soup (I don't know which), and cook the soup outside in the sun. As he's configuring this thing, it's making all kinds of annoying ripping and tearing noises as he tries to fit everything together. Why Bill? Why would I waste my time? What you are showing us is so unimportant, it really is. If I had a choice between doing all that menial crap to sun-cook my soup, or just eating cold soup...I'll eat cold soup, Bill. Really, I would.
[Bill Whaley] [showing me how to configure the soup cooker] "So you just take this piece here and add this part...wait, hold on, I think I'm missing something."
[Ron] [eyes glossing over] "It's okay Bill, I don't need all that stuff. I'll just eat it cold."
[Bill Whaley] [shock bordering on offense] "Cold soup? Who wants to eat cold soup!? Just gimme a second, there's a piece missing. We'll get your soup cooking in no time!"
[Ron] [looks at watch] "Bill, it's...it's fine. Can I have my soup back please?
[Bill Whaley] [red-faced and aggressive] "No you cannot have your soup back please, I haven't shown you how to heat it yet! Just give me a second."
[Ron] "These aren't seconds anymore, these are minutes now and I'm hungry."

Bill growls threateningly.

[Ron] [laughing] "Why are you getting so upset?"
[Bill Whaley] [screaming] "I'm not upset!"

Bill Whaley rubs his 40-grit palms together
Jim refers to Whaley's soup-warming contraption as a 'solar cooker'. I'm not sure that 'cooker' is the right word as I don't think anyone will be sizzling bacon in it anytime soon, but whatever. It gets hot, wow. Bill also says we can take a sand-filled soda can, paint it black, then set it in the sun to make a hand warmer. Ahhh, Bill knows just how to make things nice and cozy on those crisp Ozark mornin's. Bill really lays it on us thick with the hand warmer, even rubbing his hands together as he describes it. The sound his hands make when rubbed together are like sandpaper on a wood deck. Don't let the dumpy looks fool you, because the Junk Man isn't all about business: He's pleasure too.

The Junk Kook snaps rubber band off yet more garbage
Jim asks Bill what else he has for show-and-tell. I hope this is over soon because my Bill Whaley Junk-O-Meter is running into the red zone. I'm very near to experiencing a junk overdose, and I'm considering buying a furnace for all of my garbage to prevent it from falling into the hands of the other Bill Whaleys of the world.

Bill asks one of the Master's Media kids to pass him a piece of garbage that's out of reach. It's yet another crinkly piece of plastic. If this guy lived next door to me, he would drive me bonkers. I recycle. I have plastic and glass bottles wrapped up in bags on the side of my house, not stacked, just lying out there nice and clean, awaiting the few times each year when I have time to unload it all at the recycling center. If Bill lived next door, I just know that guy would be breaking my balls every couple weeks or so, asking if he could have my plastic. I'd have to tell him no, but then I'd realize that he's looking at my house and probably rooting through my garbage at night when I'm sleeping. I'd be powerless to stop him. It would drive me nuts.

The Junk Tornado unwraps loudly while Lori tries to speak
Whatever Whaley's next piece of garbage is, he has it encased in a plastic bag. Is that to keep it clean? He snaps off two rubber bands from the bag and starts unraveling the treasure inside. Meanwhile, Lori is talking, or at least trying to talk. She's saying something about the Master's Media kids, but Bill keeps driving on with his unpacking. He's like a Junk Tornado: All we see and hear is the crinkling of plastic, rubber bands snapping, and cups or pieces of cups flying about. Whaley's in his zone now, he has no time for Lori's child's play and small talk. Lori's voice trails off as she completes her sentence and stares at Bill, then we all listen and watch for a few awkward seconds as the Junk Tornado finishes unpacking. The ball is back in Whaley's court now.

Bill Whaley struggling to snug his water filter down tight
"This is a coffee creamer bottle. I just cut the bottom off of it." Whaley's face is glowing, he loves this stuff. "I went down to Walmart for $7 and bought me one of those Brita pitcher filters." Bill then drops one of those 'Brita pitcher filters' into his creamer bottle. It's a near perfect fit. Bill pulls down hard on the other end of the filter, you can see the strain on his face as he snugs the filter into the plastic bottle and seats it. He holds it up for us to see and declares proudly, "Now I got a water filter that'll filter 40 gallons of water anywhere I want to go with it." Bill, my good man...what you call a water filter, I call a smoking gun. Did you know that Jim Bakker actually sells expensive Seychelle water filters for over 3 times the price you just mentioned? In fact, the chair your sitting in was probably still warm from Dr Seychelle's last visit! Don't know who Dr Seychelle is, Bill? Well let me describe him for you, you might like him!

Detective Bill Whaley holds the smoking gun for all to see
First off, Dr Seychelle is not really a doctor at all, but Jim insists on calling him one and the fake doctor doesn't seem to mind. His real name is Carl Palmer. He has a face full of plastic surgery, is the CEO of a multi-million dollar company, and has what might be called a 'trophy wife' who operates as a 'Holistic Dental Hygienist'. That sound like your kinda' people, Bill? Or can I just call you 'Dr Whaley'...it'll make people trust you more!

You want conspiracy, Bill, well you just got one. A real one this time. You are now in competition with the fake Dr Seychelle and his froggy little buddy, Jim Bakker. You are on a show whose sole intent is to sell product. You, Bill, with all your quirks, are still at heart trying to help people. If you thought that's what Jim Bakker was about, you've made a mistake. The Jim Bakker Show is designed for product-sales, not people-helping. Showing people how to make a cheap water filter is a noble effort on your part, but in Jim's calculating mind, why would he give people something for free when he can charge them for it instead?

Jim got away from the $7 water filter real quick
Jim's subdued response to Bill's water filter: "Oh my lamb." Bakker had no idea this was going to happen and I can see the wheels turning in his mind, trying to figure out how to brush this under the rug as fast as possible without people catching on. We get one more sentence from Bill before edit: "That's how simple it is to have good clean water." Jim says, haltingly, "It really is. What's next?" Lori is next to Jim with a smile plastered on her face, but I can see her little mind chugging along as well. I'm pretty sure she caught on to the water filter fiasco too, but hell for all I know she's daydreaming about sex and crack-pipes. You never really know with Lori...one minute she's thinking about abortion, the next minute she's thinking about balloons.

Biker Chick Max tries to remember how much Jim's filters cost
As I said, a heavy edit took place here. The next time we see Bill he's snapping a rubber band back onto the plastic-covered water filter set that took him so long to unwrap earlier. No statement on this, Pastor Bakker? Shouldn't you be suggesting to us all that we save our money on pricey Seychelle filters and just build Dr Whaley's $7 filters instead?

We're back to Jim's first question about how to keep people warm, and Bakker once again refers to homeless people as 'street people'. Whaley grabs a large tin can and starts pulling metal objects out of it while Jim is still talking. Clank, clink, clunk. I know you're off the grid Bill, but I think someone is eventually going to find you out there because of all the noise you make. Do you get a lot of hungry bears out your way?

Bill Whaley removes small metal can from large metal can
The Junk Man is glowing again. I get the feeling he could talk junk, garbage and scavenging all day and night, then continuing on into the morning. Bill Whaley fails among men, but at the garbage heap he reigns supreme. Bill grabs Jim's sharpie, the same one used to write on Zach's forehead, and draws a square on the tin can. He tells us that we can cut out the square of tin, bend it over a stick, and 'put a nail through it' to make a frying pan. I have to say, when Bil grabbed the Zach sharpie and started drawing I was expecting a little more from him then a piece of tin attached to a stick. Let's throw that one out Bill, it's sort of lame. Even a gorilla could figure that one out. And by gorilla, I mean Zach Drew.

'Scuse me brother, any sausage cans to spare?
If we want to make a heater instead, Bill tells us to add a couple inches of dirt or sand to the tin can. Then we take a Vienna Sausage tin can, add wax and some pipe cleaners to make a candle. Bill, this one's even more lame. Where am I going to find an empty Vienna Sausage can? Do I need to find a hobo in a train car and rifle through his plaid knapsack while he's passed out drunk? And if I already have wax, wouldn't I also already have a candle? Bill, did you know they make things called tealight candles that can be purchased for less than a twenty cents a piece? You need to get out more and stop handling so much garbage, I think all the toxic metals have started to turn your brain into pudding.

Bill's still driving on with his candle heater. He tells us to place the sausage-can candle into the big tin can, then take a "big 62 oz juice can", poke holes in it and place it over the top of this unwieldy contraption to make a tiny, ineffective heater. I wouldn't even know what a 62 oz juice can looks like, but Bill has the sucker memorized. You've been hanging around the garbage heap for far too long Bill. Here's a life tip: If you converse with more rodents each day than people, then you need a serious change of lifestyle. It's not healthy for your mind.

Jim asked the Junk Kook for his thoughts on the economy
Bakker wants some fear-mongering from Whaley to close the show with. Jim asks the Junk Kook, a man completely unqualified to give answers on, well, anything, if he thinks the dollar is going to 'totally collapse'. Whaley says that this year the 'financial institution' is going to hit everybody and it's going to hit us hard. Jim Bakker, of course, loves hearing the unqualified Bill Whaley predict economic disaster. He looks to the audience and says, "Now listen to what he's saying people. This is what I've been trying to warn you and warn you and warn you..."

I'll get by just fine without your plastic bread bag, Bill
Finally, the show winds down. Bakker asks Whaley to address the critics who call his gimmick stupid. Whaley tells us "your dollar's gettin' littler every day", and asks, "What happens when you can't buy this?" Bill, if I'm so stupid that I can't figure out how to stay warm with all the extra clothes in my closet, or how to crack open a can of Campbell's soup and eat it, then I guess I'll just die. That really sums it up for me, I'd rather lose out and die then spend my life living in fear of ridiculous things like roving gangs, dying of thirst, starving, or freezing to death. I'm not a settler on the frontier.

But let's be honest here: The scary world you describe is not going to happen in our lifetime. We don't live in Sudan, we live in America. Among other things, we have police, military, business, and multiple layers of government filled with fellow citizens who have a vested interest in keeping everything under control. The doom-speakers and fear-mongers like Jim Bakker know this too. That's why they take cold hard cash as payment for their products and speaking engagements. They prey on dimwits who've been watching too many scary movies. Think about it for a second: if Jim Bakker really thought the world was going to fall apart, wouldn't he be doing something to prevent it instead of catering to it?

How much did Jim Bakker pay for your integrity, Bill?
Bakker ends the show with one final pitch for his Wheat Buckets. The high hopes I had for Bill Whaley's integrity have now vanished, because Jim tells us that every $100 Wheat Bucket sold today comes with a free DVD of the Junk Kook in action. We see Bill sitting in his chair, twiddling his thumbs and smiling as if he just swallowed a canary. Bill must be thinking that he pulled a fast one over on Jim, but believe me Bill, the only one pulling a fast one in this relationship is Jim Bakker. You are a tadpole swimming with the largest toad in the swamp, and he's been swimming in this swamp for years.

The show ends, then we get a five-minute commercial for foodbuckets.

2,815 comments:

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Craig said...

Lol @ 3:06. That's what Kool Aid Kid did today. Send jim a bill Kool Aid Kid. It is tax deductible. Loll.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

lol anon@309pm

just having an off day ....

everyone has them from time to time.

KaK For MAYOR!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

lol Craig.

I won't bill the frog. He'd just send me some cheap shit trinkets anyways.

Troll Zombie said...

I doubt Jason will answer because he'll have to face my question of: Do you think Jim spends too much time selling?

Anyone with two brain cells in their head (and I do believe that Jason has plenty of neuron activity) knows the answer to that question is YES! He either has to come on here and lie and say NO, or he has to admit the truth which is YES and that's going to get him fired.

It's the same reason he can't answer the question: Does Jim spend too much time talking about Revelation and not enough time talking about salvation. The answer, again, to "normal" people is YES! But now he either has to lie or ignore the question. That is going to put him in a bad position either way.

You thought I was a stooge for Jim when I **respectfully** posted those questions - but I knew that there was no way he could answer them.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Troll Zombie,

Sorry for that.

Good post.

;)

Troll Zombie said...

No need for apology - that's what happens when you post anonymously. Jason came on and was very pleasant, and I'll be the same. But I will be very, very surprised if he answers those questions.

Also, I feel bad for Joe C. He's the only one of us that has property/money/legal matters involved here. He's got all those zombies gnashing their teeth at him, and he's got us "trolls" all worked up because he's not coming here spilling information. I don't think he intended to tease anyone. We just watched it unfold as it happened, and it got to a point where it wasn't smart to show all his cards.

Patience, trolls. Patience.

Get some.. said...

Oh you're riding high! Cocky today! Feeling your oats! Oh the Kid is this and that say the anons. But what about "your" reality? What about the pizzas? What about the pizzas you neglected to make? Gilberti has had just about enough of you. Get back to those ovens.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Get some "laughs from me being stupid" @ 359pm

No need to explain to anyone who you are. You did it for me. lol

boring ... next jim bakker fake student please

Craig said...

@trollzombie.
Those were simple yes or no questions in normal land. You, however are dealing with a spin doctor. Those questions only presented a chance for morningside twisted theology to answer them. However, burnjimburn asked questions that cannot be spun and will go unanswered. I like your screen name btw.

Troll Zombie said...

Well Jason's Easter comment didn't cut it with me, but I give him props for trying his best. It doesn't matter if Jim was legitimately sick or not, the JBS website had NO mention of anything Easter - not in the blogs, not in the articles... the only thing Easter-ish on the website was a flashing pic at the top that said "he is risen" that faded into an ad for the generator.

Jim may have been sick for a week and unable to tape shows to air, but he had plenty of time to have his students prepare the website for weeks before Easter.

Also, where was MagicZach? With all the accolades he gets from everyone, you'd think he would have been qualified to step in for Jim because, after all, Easter is THE christian holiday of the year. No "normal" church would cancel Maundy Thursday, Good Friday and Easter services because a pastor was ill. They'd get a replacement. With all Jim's "connections" you wouldn't think that would be too hard.

Nope, Jim didn't bother with Easter because it isn't a money maker in his world.

fact said...

Trollzombie, the first really honest screen name I've seen here in a while.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Back to making pizzas "fact". Chop chop!

Craig said...

Perfect comment trollzombie.

Joe C Blue eye, Missouri said...

Wow Troll Zombie, somebody has finally caught on. Thank you so much.

Tanya said...

Are we seriously back to using honest jobs as insults? Truly, nothing has changed.

Welcome, Troll Zombie. Like the name.

I also like about your questions because they are during Jason W.'s time at Morningside, and based on his deflections to date, should be something he can comment on.

I didn't know about the Easter-ish generator ad - now that is special. I wonder who thought that up.

Blame the right guy said...

Hey! Kool-aid-Kid started the job put down name calling. Blast him!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Blame the right guy "or I will sit down and cry" 445pm


Stop typing and give your little mind a rest will you.

lol Here's some two day old Dino cake.

Tanya, I think the devil thought up the ad.

Anonymous said...

Joe C. you need to respond to the allegations by Uncle Henry!

Craig said...

@blame the right guy.
You are mistaken. There were several comments about entry level jobs that masters media graduates may be qualified for. The truth hurts but why blame Kool Aid Kid?

Joe C Blue eye, Missouri said...

I don't HAVE to do shit anon.

Anonymous said...

Hi folks. It's been busy with Rabbi Cahn here so this is my first time back since my last comment. If I don't respond to you, I probably missed your comment because I don't have much time.

burnjimburn...Based on what I've personally seen while here, yes, I'd let him and Lori baby sit my kids. I've seen nothing to suggest they wouldn't take care of them properly. I've never had the food so I don't know if I'd give it to the kids or not. As for Master's Media vs. an accredited school...I'd want them to go where they want to go. I would tell them it would likely be a harder road without an accredited college degree but I'd be honest and say it's not impossible.

Anon @9:42...my view on their talking about items on the show is similar to how Penn Jillette talked about someone who gave him a Bible. He said if the guy really believed in the Bible then he would have to be some kind of a-hole to not tell Penn about it. I see the same thing in Jim. He really believes we're in the end times and people need to prepare. So what kind of guy if you believe that wouldn't want to try and help people prepare for it?

And as for the time spent...we're all different parts in the body of Christ. Not every ministry is called to the same thing. If Jim feels he's called to a Revelation ministry and preparing people for the end times then that will be the majority of what he addresses on his show.

Jessica, I did fill out a W-4 but I won't tell you how much I make. :)

Craig said...

That's probably why you don't have custody of your children Mr. Wert.

Tanya said...

And a new deflection - we had: (a) that was before my time, and now we have: (b) if I don't respond to you, I probably missed your comment because I don't have much time.

Its a growing list, like the ever-expanding number of reasons Jim Bakker has for being sent to prison.

Kool-Aid: I suppose that is the benefit of being called to a Revelation Ministry - you can ignore Easter, do an Easter-ish generator advert on your website, and just keep on trucking with more 9/11 images.

Trollnonymous said...

Jason Wert, why do you post here?

Craig said...

I find it ironic that Mr. Wert didn't touch on TrollZombie's inquiries but did address burnjimburn's. His response was curious, to say the least, for a loving parent who relocated to be near his children. Mr. Wert I think I am safe including you with all that is fake and phony at morningside.
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not buying it said...

To Mr. Wert:

Jim is called to a Revelation Ministry, what is that? He's called to help prepare people for the end times? The Easter story is the best way people can prepare for the end times Mr. Wert! Why is the Gospel continually ignored if Jim is running a legitimate ministry?

I would like Mr. Wert to show me in the Gospels or the book of Revelation where God said to hoard away for the last days? Where did Jesus say move into a "christian" communities, build bunkers, and storehouses for survival food? Where did God say to film victims of tragedies and not help them? Where did God say in preparing for the last days you need new vehicles, lake homes, boats, designer clothes, vacation in luxury hotels? Where did God say to start a fake christian school? Where did God say it's good to gossip and slander your neighbors? Where did God say to run people out of your fake christian community on trumped up charges by hysterical, trespassers? When did Jesus say to have no shame in entering into private residence? Where did God say to send away a prodigal daughter who is a minor? When did God say it was ok to fornicate and have a baby out of wedlock? Where did Jesus say to not celebrate his resurrection, but instead celebrate pushing products to make money and ignore his sacrifice?

Mr. Wert can you find the bible references that back up these activities and behaviors?

I need to go and would like to ask, and get answers to so many more questions. later......

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter what Jim Bakker does, it will always be wrong to these trolls - it doesn't matter what Jason Wert says, he will always be wrong to.

Buddy, you done bit off more than you can chew. You think you can reach these people? Good luck. You can't.

If you keep throwing pearls before the swine, you deserve what you get here. It ain't smart - and you ain't Super Christian.

Troll Zombie said...

Thank you for answering my questions.

I disagree with you about the amount of time Jim spends selling... Wouldn't it be better to direct people to a legitimate source to purchase items they need, or to list them on his website? Like, "Here at Morningside, we reccommend XXX brand generator, and you can purchase it through XXX Company. That would take all of five or 10 minutes of air time, versus 50 minutes of air time. Then maybe he'd have time to preach on both salvation and Jesus' second coming. Sweet!

I'd say that's a novel idea! Then, just like legitimate churches, people can freely donate in any amount, if they feel so moved - and then NOBODY could ever accuse Jim Bakker of twisting the gospel and using fear to sell things.

Anonymous said...

I met Joe c the other day. He is a really angry guy. I don't understand why he is so pissed off.

not buying it said...

To Anonymous @ 6:55,

You are so wrong, it does matter what Jim Bakker does!! It does matter what Jason Wert says!! That is why so many people are angry at the perversion of the Gospel coming from this fake ministry!

I have not bit off more than I can chew. The Bakkers, the Crawfords, and the Bakker supporters have!

You sir are the swine. Don't quote scripture when you don't practice anything God says to do. You obviously don't know God and you don't know His word!

Anonymous said...

Don't get your drawers in a wad, girlie. If Jim Bakker did nothing but read the Bible on the show, these trolls would find something wrong with it. They strane at nats and swallow camels.

Listen to yourself. Do you really think the people hear care about the gospel?

Anonymous said...

Hey Jim,
When you said "going through legal hoops"tonight on your 'show', did you mean having to pay taxes?

Are you building via Stone County or through the City of Blue Eye

Anonymous said...

Obviously a student at the college:

Do you really think the people HEAR care about the gospel?

LOL LOL LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I cawt that too.

Craig said...

Okay Troll Zombie. If he answered your questions I must have missed it.
Dark lord bakker to darth wert "have you infiltrated the opposition? "

"Yes my lord "
"And what can you tell me about these Bucketeers? "
"Well dark lord, Kool Aid Kid won't cut us any slack."
"Keep going Darth Wert "
"Yes my lord, Tanya is smarter than you and I."
"What about Ron the atheist? "
"I don't think he likes you"
"What if I admit to being an atheist, will he get off my back?"
"I don't think so, he seems really pissed about the fraud stuff."
"Finally, darth Wert, what about this damn Brother Dortch? "
"I don't know lord bakker, he refuses to engage me."
"I see, shall I call in darth zach for help?"
"No. I can take care of it without that idiot."
"Well then, maybe TBC again. "
"Not a good idea dark lord, remember the stalking thing about him?"
"Fine then darth wert, I expect this Foodbucket Fanpage to go away soon."
"Yes dark lord, soon. Mwaahaa."
"Oh, and darth Wert, have darth zach meet me at the bath house. "

Los Angeles Ministry Worker said...

The major television networks will not even consider hiring you if you don't have an accredited college degree PLUS experience in the field. The young Bakker students have now heard Jason Wert, himself, say it is going to be much harder for them now that they do not have a degree and for Jim Bakker to say his college qualifies them for employment at a TV network is just plain misleading and he owes all of his students an apology for saying such a untrue statement to them. This is just one of the reasons Jim Bakker is unliked by so many.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

The Bakker Propaganda Minister speaks again.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

boring bs

Anonymous said...

Craig for Mayor.

burnjimburn said...

craig, i laughed out loud. i will now call him darth wert forever.lol. i hope to God for his kids sake their mom doesnt let them get within a mile of moronside or any of their imperial troopers. and he knows if he tries some bucket food he will have colon cancer in about a week.
jim is such a bundle of sticks.

Anonymous said...

Lori's House will happen. They are now building it on the original 600 acres, already annexed into the City of Blue Eye.

I do not feel it will be much longer before we see jim hiding under a desk again.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Moronside Propaganda Minister for Mayor

Anonymous said...

Real men wear pink jim

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Real men wear corset jackets jimbo.

No they don't, just fooling with you froggy.

Anonymous said...

KAK you should be on stage.

Anonymous said...

We are going to have a grand opening for a home for unwed mothers?? What?

Kool-Aid Kid said...

On stage? Hell, as it is I'm having trouble finding the time to bake carrot Dino cakes for all these stupid fake bakker students. I had to give out day old pieces of Dino shit today as it was. Maybe I'll find time tomorrow.

not buying it said...

lol @ 7:37,

Did you mean "strain" at "gnats" and swallow camels. Your spelling is atrocious, good thing I know my way around the Bible. You were referring to Matthew 23:24, You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

I have another verse for you, Matthew 15:14 Leave them, they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall in a pit. That is a great summary of what Jim Bakker is doing, and you blind fools are following him into that pit of dung!

Did you mean to say "do the people "here" care about the Gospel?" Maybe not, but they "hear" it from me. It's sad they don't hear it from you good little christians who support Jim Bakker! You can't share Gods love or His Word because it's not in you! Your behavior doesn't say much for what you are learning in that fake college. Your behavior, grammar, and spelling tell me that you still belong in elementary school. So that fake college is a great fit for you!

You are going to take the Gospel to the world. Can you tell me when you plan to start doing that? Are you just a little liar like your leader? Don't you think it's time to stop faking that your a christian? I'd suggest reading your bible and learning from it. Open your bible before you open your mouth!

SusanD said...

Craig,
Good post, I agree no matter what Mr. Wert personally thinks he will never say it, since his job would be at sake. So he will follow the script Jimbo gives him to deal with us... Good Luck with that Mr Wert lolol

Anonymous said...

The head of the Morningside College English & Writing Department is James Chapman. His assistant is Mondo. Can you tell?

Anonymous said...

Jim.
When you say we have already spent a half mil on Lori's House, are you a part of we? How can you be a part of we on a 400 dollar a week check?

Kool-Aid Kid said...

I have a feeling that Mr. Wert will love working at Moronside. It's probably the only job that he has had that when caught looking at internet porn at work his boss gives him a pat on the back.

"Atta boy!", says the frog.

Don't believe the fake cry said...

They are only spinning the truth on their show. There were no permits in place, construction was not ready to begin. It is all hogwash. I know this as fact.

SusanD said...

Don't believe the fake cry 8:53
How can that be??? Jimbo had the people follow him to the land at 4 PM to do a prayer circle lol On the live show he said lets take a keyboard the generator should be able to power it and have Kevin sing...and of course film it.

Jessica said...

Kool Aid Kid: I look forward to your comments...they make me laugh and poking at the zombies is always hysterical. You are so quick and the zombies are working so hard trying to keep up with you.

Regarding your post today Jason. You must think we are stupid and, Jason, if you are as smart as you say, your conspiring with Bakker is more disgusting because you know the difference in Jesus and Bakker.

If you want to sell products, haul in money, sit around and moan and groan, hang out by the bathhouse, well okay by me. Just don't use your non-profit status to take my tax money ...well, that makes me angry!

This Friday is probably a payday for you. Ask Bakker for a zombie discount on the Jesus Blessed Generator that he is selling for $1700. Did you know it will keep your refrigerator running, your laptop going, maybe your Jesus blender can work up a smoothie in our honor. And, you can always get the Jesus flashlight and the Jesus wristband so you can sleep well tonight.

Nail them to the cross said...

Why do they not want to go through Stone County Planning and Zoning?

Don't believe the fake cry said...

That would be the new sight Susan. There were never any permits issued for the original plot. That is what I was referring to.

Oatmeal for breakfast said...

The issue is not about abortion. The issue is the legality of building without permit, without oversight. You are a sly one bakker, we will beat you. We are on to your con.

SusanD said...

Don't believe the fake cry,
Wow no permits....That's plain stupid, but I am not surprised lololol

Elliot Ness said...

A get out of jail free card should be the next item up for sale because the man is coming to see you. FACT

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Even the trees on the frog's property are trying to take him out with their pollen. He's pissing everybody and everything off. lol

Come Quickly Please said...

Hey 9:26, It couldn't happen to a nicer guy, errrr I mean shyster!

Tanya said...

Craig: I hardly know what to say - thanks for the laugh!

The way Jim Bakker distorts things never ceases to amaze. He says he is undergoing "warfare" because killing babies is a money-making industry - but he does not mention his responsibility (the legal steps that he apparently did not take before launching into yet another building project).

Hey, there might be questions and/or resistance to what Jim Bakker plans to do, I don't know - I live in a city, and every time someone wants to build, it seems someone else isn't happy about it. But here's the thing: if the people who want to build have gone through the proper channels, gotten all their permits, etc, then there may be a small amount of media coverage, and then building starts. Because it was all done on the up-and-up.

It would make sense to me to hold off on "spiritual warfare" claims until he has all the permits, and has gone through all the proper channels.

Kool-Aid Kid said...
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Kool-Aid Kid said...

Name: Zach Drew

Hobby: Prank Caller

Future Ambitions: Prank Caller

Current Position: Morningside Student / Jim Bakker Prophet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpdCcaFOuH0&feature=related

I'd love to see that guy that you pranked and asked "an intimate question about diarrhea" kick your sorry fat sissy butt around the block.

No wonder your parents sent you to the jim bakker compound!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Back again and now using my screen name. How brave of you. Didn't like the other screen names you picked yesterday?

Kool-Aid Kid said...

The first moronside fake student laugh of the friggin day!

LOL LOL LOL LOL

Interesting how "you as me" posted at the same time as the real me.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

Brother Dortch said...

I have just come across this very well written piece by the administrator of a blog called "Four Finger Wu On War & Life". The article is called "Christmas Dinner With Jim Bakker & Lori" and it was written on December 27, 2011.

I thought a lot of you might be interested in reading what the author had to say.
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"...What I continue to think is “What a crime this Bakker rebirth on TV must be in light of what I imagine the conditions of his parole must, or should, have been...

During the very public fall from grace, ( at PTL ) Jim’s homosexual double life surfaced as well. What a God-awful mess it was…and is.

Now, in his new sell-a-thon Christian- TV broadcasts from Grace Street, Branson Mo. Bakker plays the poor betrayed victim of “enemies” at PTL…and frequently refers to his years there as a very proud time in his life……WHAT ? And makes frequent reference to his years in the Big House, like it was the same thing as going to Yale, or Harvard.

He’s eats dehydrated food from bouiling pots, on camera, and then he offers seven years of powdered cereal, and green beans to the new faithful for a “Love Gift” of $3,000-.

God has been taliking to Jim pretty regularly. In 1999, God told Jim about the Japanese Tsunami, and these days He assures his favorite Christian broadcaster that the end is near, and he needs to sell, to the Flock, flashlights, and bags of survival gear….ALONG WITH THE POWDERED FOOD.

It must really frost Pat Bobertson’s behind that God has decided to talk with Jim Bakker, and not him.

Well Jimmy got through this holiday season, pretty much, without mentioning Mary, or Joseph, or even the manger. He was in fervent selling mode, urging the faithful to buy his survival gear, and the dehydrated beans. His Christmas had absolutely nothing to do with the Baby Jesus, or “ Oh Holy Night”. His drive to Dec 25th was less about Peace On Earth, than it was about “Love Gifts”, and what they would bring you.

I weep for those poor, gullible fools who send this criminal their hard earned cash, and who apparently believe they are doing God’s work.

Well, the NEW Jim Bakker has been tested in the fires of prison, and he’s dealin’.

There has to be enough of “Back in the day crap” in Bakker’s present day shilling, and scamming, to revoke his parole and put him back behind bars where he cannot hurt people, and bilk those stupid enough to write “Love Offering Checks & Money Orders”, and who let him into their plastic bank vaults.

The man is shameless, and he needs to be with other shameless con artists…24-7, in the Gray Bar Hotel."

Kool-Aid Kid said...

To the person pretending to be me... to correct you I am infact a homosexual, but I'm not fat. Nice try Zach aka Fatso.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Play fair zombie.

Using other peoples screen name is not fair on blogs.

Look up the page. See? Good. It is obvious to all Bucket friends of mine to see you screwed up posting the same time as the real me.

Grow up.

Anonymous said...

Joe C. come clean once and for all, what the heck happened at the meeting. Speak for yourself and quit relying on Tanya to defend you. Be a man, god dammit! Jessica, Kak is not funny, he's a silly little dickens. Kool-aid-Kid if you are in fact what you claim to be a Homo., that would account for your attraction and sexual fixation on he-man Zach. Sorry I misunderstood your motives.

Beelzebub said...

Haha, rolf. Kak told someone to grow up. Only person that needs to grow up is him, name calling, and making dino cake jokes. I think the dude that used his name really got to him. I'm guessing Kak is either in a self-help forum or searchin for ways to kill himself with Google. Lol, wah, wah, wah, cry baby sissy pants.

Look for salvation elsewhere. said...

What the heck do you bunch of athiest care if Bakker posted anything about Easter? You bozos will use anything to bolster your lame claims. Contradictions, hypocritical assertions throw it in the toilet and see if it floats. In fact you heathens should not even be interested in his show. Bunch of misfits!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Good morning to you Mrs. Hallelujah (anon@923am), please lay on the couch and we will have another talk shall we?

Okay, so how are you today?

"Mad as a wet hen god dammit!"

What has got you in such an angry mood this morning Mrs. Hallelujah?

Joe C, Tanya, Jessica and that homo KaK! God dammit! God dammit!

Take it easy please. I'd like to ask why you are upset with KaK. You know, why don't we just call this person Kool-Aid Kid? Okay?

"Okay god damit!"

So go on please.

"Kool-Aid Kid is not funny. He's silly but not as silly as when I saw Jimmy wearing the corset jacket ... now that was funny god damit!"

Times up and I have some freshly baked Dino cake for you and don't forget to pay the bill I'll send you god damit!

Dead Eye Jones said...

Look for salvation elsewhere... for Mayor!

Rip them trolls (a.k.a. bucketeers) a new one!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Like I said fat Zach, I'd love to see that guy that you pranked and asked "an intimate question about diarrhea" kick your sorry fat sissy butt around the block.

"Beelzebub said...
I think the dude that used his name really got to him."

No it got to everyone that comes to the Bucket to post fairly on both sides of the discussion. Not just me bakker fake student. ;)

Awaiting The Sex Scandal said...

If you Bakker students think you are making yourselves and your leader look good you had better think again. You are embarrassing yourselves and your ministry greatly. I don't even know why you would even want to come here and post in the first place, but to come here and act the way you do, is just further making yourself look like unintelligent fools.

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Anonymous said...

Someone who calls themselves "awaiting the sex scandal" calls all you students to be nice now. You're making Jim look bad!

Are you people completely stupid? What do you think YOU look like?

Good try but we no buy.

Zach Drew said...

Hey everyone, I am sorry for the way I have been acting I just can’t control myself. I am terribly attracted to Cool Aid Kid but am forced to stay closeted so I don’t prevent Jim’s stealing from old people. I just really crave a strong man to lie next to me and cuddle. Me and Nolan are no longer together because Jim stole him from me. I guess he must have learned some good tricks in prison. But I am still a very lustful power bottom for anyone out there willing to have me. ONLY MEN NEED RESPOND

Jessica said...

Hey there look for salvation elsewhere @9:35 a.m. Loved your comments so much.

You said that I am a heathen, a misfit, an "athies"t (Do you mean atheist"), and my claims are lame. What a mouthful and, thank you, for showing your true spirit. I appreciate honesty and you being unafraid to tackle me on this blog.

First of all, compliments and high fives to you for brushing your tooth before whispering such nice things to me. The last zombie who posted to me, I had to reprimand for not brushing and flossing his tooth before hissing at me. Thanks, clean little zombie.

Oh, gosh, slip of the tongue on my part! Bakker could sell a lot of hygiene Jesus products to his zombies. He has the audience for it...Jesus denture cream, Jesus toothpaste for zombies, Jesus depends for the older zombies, Zombie Jesus eyelashes, Jesus hairbrushes for their tufts.

The zombie world is his oyster. The skies the limit. Go for it Bakker. There is no stopping Jimmie. He's like a little creepy snowball...just keeps rolling along.

Okay, back to your description of me. I guess you got me there. The only thing I cannot agree on is "lame claims". You see, I take my information off public records that are "fact".

Of the 103,500 viewers on this blog, some are going to read my post and your comments.

I hear Bakker is selling fuzzy white lambs for $1,000 today so I must leave you and tune in.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Let's see now zombie "foodbuckets for brains" what screen names have you used so far. My screen name ( which made you an idiot in the attempt), dead eye jones, beelzebub, look for salvation elsewhere, anon@923am, ect.

Nice try Zach, now stop typing and go give your fat 666 premature balding head a break.

Brother Dortch said...
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Anonymous said...

This is bunch is like the bunch that attacked Sarah Palin. She rightly labeled them "lame-stream media."

Hmmmm Wonder what we could label you 'bucketeers' that would stick like that?

'Bilious Bucketeers'- ill-tempered and unpleasant.

'Bullhorn Bucketeers'- blowing smoke.

'Babbeldom Bucketeers' - a confused bunch of voices.

'Bubblegum Bucketeers' - most of their ages.

'Bavardage Bucketeers' - chattering all the time about meaningless things.

'Blubbering Bucketeers' - what they do when they're one-upped.

'Belliferous Bucketeers' - bringing war.

'Bestiocracy of Bucketeers' - ruled by beasts.

'Breedbate Bucketeers' - someone always looking for an argument.

and my favorite:

'Bullyrag Bucketeers' - to assault with abusive language.

Understanding man said...

Jason has been a true cartharsis for this forum. After admitting he had a few problems in the past we see others reveal "skeletons in the closet". Kool-aid-kid has come out of the closet to admit his homosexuality (good for you kid). Joe C. has just about opened the book on his little farce and scheme. Awaitingthesexscandal has acknowledged his sexual perversity by his nom de plume. I could go on by I think you get the message. Those in glass houses should not throw dino cakes around.

Old Prospector in Blue eyes. said...

What I think is some of these people who disavow their own post regret saying certain things. I've learned a long time ago to refrain from making certain statements. A million horses can't pull those words back once they go out. I would suggest in the future Bro D, KAK and others think before they hit that "enter" button. Just saying!

Anonymous said...

This blog is great!!!

Little kid said...

How come when everything goes wrong people blame it on the Devil? I'm sure if there is one, he could care less if Lori's house gets built. Also, if God is everywhere, just where is the Devil? I mean it would be a meeting of matter and anti matter if they were in the same place together. Just musing.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Understanding man "that makes prank calls"@1206pm

Yes, Jason has had a screwed up past ... and future at the compound.

You know Zach you will look like a cue ball in a few years! lol

Chubbs said...

Bro Dortch you are mistaken as I am still leading the Morningside Band!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

.... band? lol

Where is Joe C. said...

Joe C. why are you so angry? Come clean once and for all, what the heck happened at the meetings. Speak for yourself and quit relying on Tanya to defend you.

Did you start the petition or just sign it? Have you had any further meetings with Jim? What is the status on the construction?

Anonymous said...

Be nice if Dick Clark left something to Morningside. He had hundreds and hundreds of millions. He could buy himself a fine spot in the promised land if he did.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Jim Bakker's Moronside Band featuring:

Mile High Hair "Zoo" zombie singer
(for god's sakes girl fix that friggin nest on your head)

Cross-eyed, one-toothed, goofy smiling bass guitarist

Creepy, grumpy lead guitarist

Fat out of shape Chubbs clone on keyboard

WOW!

LOL LOL LOL

Tanya said...
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Kool-Aid Kid said...

The meaning of the "promised land" in Jim Bakker pollen polluted head ... Lori's bank account.

Damn .... the trees almost got that wrinkly old fart.

Jimbo your face is not wrinkled though. No worries there, you've had it stretched tighter than a snarm drum! lol

Tanya said...

All the writing from the Bakker-supporters, and not one piece of relevant, concrete information.

Not one.

Everything comes from both sides, we've established that. EXCEPT for identity theft of established posters - that is pure Bakker-supporter behaviour. If the purpose is to make us think the real Kool-Aid Kid, Brother D., and Ron posted - epic failure. If it is just silly useless time-wasting, like Zach Drew's YouTube videos of his prank calls and reading the bible in silly voices - success.

The difference remains that the Bakker-supporters do not do anything else. They do not answer questions, they do not provide information of use.

One observation about the Jim Bakker show was: there was no mention of Easter. Why is this relevant? And why would this remain relevant to people who are not Christian? (note: there are other options besides atheist that the Bakker-supporters don't seem to be aware of, there are also people who have self-identified as Christian who post here.)

Answer: because Jim Bakker states that, in addition to other things, God talks to him, that Jim is using his school to bring Christianity to the youth of today, "church religion" has pushed people away from God, being prepared is important because harvest time is coming and new souls can be brought to Jesus.

Question: if that all is true - what is the motivation for *not* talking about a critical time for a Christian? That one thing - ignoring Easter - makes it look like the message of Easter is not relevant to Jim Bakker. How could that be? We know how important Revelation and disaster movies are to Jim Bakker, we get that almost every show - unless the show is exclusively sales of survival products. What is the difference between Easter and Revelation? How does that difference relate to selling survival gear/"being prepared"?

You tell me. So many posters attack people here on the assumption they are not Christian, or are bad Christians - so tell me. Answer the above.

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Kool-Aid Kid said...

Zach go make some more prank calls and stop wearing your baldcaps ... oops, I mean ballcaps so tight.

Hey, why not call Jason and ask him what porn sites he visited today? I sure his ex wives would love to hear too. Hey, maybe you can babysit his kids and teach them to make stupid prank phones too? Wow! What fun!

I'm sure you have that youtube prank call bookmarked, but for anyone else that would like to see Mr. Jim Bakker's Prophet in action here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpdCcaFOuH0&feature=related

Imagine a creep like Zach Drew calling you in the middle of the night with a prank call like that!

Imagine a creep like Zach Drew calling you in the middle of the night with a prank call like that when you are alone!

Imagine a god that would help a creep like Zach Drew teach you about secret codes in the bible?

Tanya said...

@we musta forgot: thank you for proving my point so quickly... and relatively concisely.

Anonymous said...

Jessica. You have to admit. Some of these Bakker kids are just as funny as KAK. Maybe a little more cerebral in comparison with kak's juvenile 1980 humor style. kak must have been influenced by Galligher and Carrottop, Soupy Sales and Jerry Lewis.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Anon" is that what cerebral means ... holy shit who would have thought"@235pm

Bored Zach Drew?

If your forehead gets any bigger the moronside english teacher could use it as a white board.

Ask the teacher to use a nice big felt tipped marker.

Anonymous said...

@2:24,

I'm sure kak has the "secret code' to the bathhouse security device.

Anonymous said...

@Little Kid:

The devil and God certainly can exist in the same place, and can speak to one another. Read the book of Job for more.

Awaiting The Sex Scandal said...

If the bath house does have a security device that lets you enter through the door then it is another example of fraud in the ministry. Jim Bakker sold keys for the bath house for $500 each and sent out keys to those who paid him. Now, I guess, the keys are like the plaque on the statue, useless. Just another routine day on the job at the compound!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

You know something Zach ... your receeding hairline gives you enough room to write "secret code teacher" on your forehead.

Don't like that one? No? Okay, how about Mr. Jim Bakker's #1 Boy ... oops ... you're not that anymore. Sorry about that.

Let's try "Creepy Prank Phone Caller"

Oh, have some Dino cake.

call me Ishmael said...

@2:56.... Last time I read the "Book of Job" I came away with the feeling the Devil was smarter then God. He could get him to do what he wanted. If I was God in that book I'd tell the Devil to "Beat it", I don't have to proof a thing to the likes of you". Am I right?

inspiration by Zach said...

Bakker is trully the "keeper of the keys".

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Keeper or Creeper? lol

Anonymous said...

It's no wonder he wants those fake keys not to work. If paying guests were to walk in and see what goes on there every night, it could severely hurt donations! LOL LOL LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Keeper of the Keys to the shithouse only!!

Homer said...

Kool-Aid Kid you remind me of Bart Simpson....

Kool-Aid Kid(gay boy)8- said...
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Anonymous said...

Bakker = Mr Burns
Zach = Smithers
Kevin = Flanders
Chubbs = Barney
Nolan = Skinner
Crawford = Moe
Junkman = Grandpa

Anonymous said...

The LAST PERSONS on earth who should be calling anybody gay are the people associated with Jim Bakker! Really....Think about it fools.

Kool-Aid Kid said...
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Kool-Aid Kid said...

what's your delicate weak spot you ask?

the empty space in your skull where your brain is supposed to be

have a dino cake and play fair fatso

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Zach it's okay. Young dudes can go bald. Go with it.

LOL

LOL

LOL

Satan aka your worst nightmare bitches said...
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Kool-Aid Kid said...

Jim Bakker Fake Student thrown out of game for a flagrant foul in the play.

Report to bathhouse!

hahahahaahahaha

Anonymous said...

I don't blame KaK for being pissed. Someone is using his name under false pretences. Kool-aid-kid you need to register and have your name appear like Craig and Jessica.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

To 351pm

:)

Got to ya didn't I?

lol

Anonymous said...

Joe C.

This is the last post you'll get from me telling you what you must do. From now on you're on your own. Do your own thinking!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Come on Zach! Give Jason a prank call. Do it! He'll laugh about it.

Or maybe don't ... would Jason get fired by Jim Bakker from kicking your sorry extra fat butt around the compound?

lol

Stay kool. Stay kool.

Anonymous said...

Kool-aid-Kid how do we know which is which? You have a lot of immitators here. Maybe you should quit this blog and leave.

Grandma Maxine said...

Kool-Aid Kid has left the building!

Bucketina said...

Anyone who outright posts comments under another persons screen name is showing just how totally immature they are. Man up, show your true self. These "Kollage Kids" are the "NowGeneration"? They are supposed to be representing Bakker and his ministry through social media. Jim said that is the way kids today connect. From what I have read here from them under "anon" or from stealing someones screen name identity, I think Bakker doesn't have a clue as to what his students do out here in the social media world, the world his students are "to reach the world by spreading the word of God". FAIL.

Anonymous said...

The Morningside posters are a complete embarrassment. I hope every new arrival to this blog sees what they do and holds bakker accountable.

Where is jason wert to tell them to shut up and be good examples for Christ? Where is jim bakker to do the same? These foul mouthed youth are what come out of masters commission? I think the real masters commission needs to be contacted and informed how bad these people make them look.

Everyon of you children should be ashamed of yourselves.

The Leader of Darkness said...
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mscrew said...

Morningside 10pts
Foodbucket Crap Page 0pts

Kool-A said...

Come on fake students, is that all you got?
You guys must really not want cake tonight .

What next Zach, are you gonna prank call me and ask me if I make pop poo in my pants.

LOL

LOL

LOL

Ron said...
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Anonymous said...

The Bakker supporters that come to this blog prove the mental illness at Morningside is rampant. How could anyone support or believe anything that Jim says if they weren't touched in the head! Wouldn't you want to move to Morningside and live with these crazies! Jim says God is telling him that people should move to Morningside. Sales must be slow now that the truth is out about then mental cases out there. It's an insane asylum not a christian village! lol at the Morningside idiots!

SusanD said...

Ron,
I just ignore them lol....They aren't worth the time or effort

Anonymous said...

SusanD, I don't believe that was Ron either. Looks like the school needs a playground to keep the kids busy. Their behavior today has been pathetic. Their lives are certainly lacking something.

SusanD said...

Anon 6:43 pm
Yeah seems when they get a day off from taping they go nuts lololol So much for Mr Wert keeping them under control. lolol

Anonymous said...

The sanctimonious Jim Bakker people come to this blog to judge everyone that posts here as heathens, people with nothing better to do, etc. Nothing wrong with them wasting time posting here, lol. What dolts!

Ron said...

Anon is correct Susan, that was not me posting.

If Bakkers kids can't behave decently on this forum, then i'm going to begin deleting their posts completely and they'll no longer have a voice here. After all, that is exactly what their lord jim does on his very own website.

This is my blog and I make the rules. Every reader here knows that I act with total fairness, but at this point fairness means deleting and moderating posts that are meant to hijack the conversation and grief participants who want dialogue. I don't want to do that, but they are giving me no other option.

It's up to you, kids. If you want to be completely silenced, just let me know and I'll take care of that for you. KaK will still feed you cake, but you'll just have to sit back and eat it without being able to respond.

The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

No more posts from me today.

Anonymous said...

What a complete hypocrite. Participants who want dialogue? Talk about inbred.

Craig said...

I for one didn't find any of the students fake posts today humorous at all. It was as unethical as it was disturbing. What else should we expect from morningside? I guess I'm not surprised.

Ron said...

Anon @ 718

Last I checked, Tanya, Bro D and others posted questions for the Bakker cultists to answer. That's an attempt at dialogue.

If you don't want to answer the questions, or want to point the finger at people for being poor Christians, atheists. or whatever else you just decide to make up out of the clear blue sky, that's up to you. But the truth is easy to see: you are the one avoiding dialogue, not those of us who see Jim Bakker for what he is and call him out on it. Now, would you care to answer the stack of questions asked by various commentators or are you going to ignore those the same way Jim ignores his Bible?

Master's Media kids: I took the liberty of deciding for you. I'm sure Kool-Aid Kid will be stuffing your fat faces with Dino Cake soon.

And just to show what a fair and honest guy I am, I will continue allowing posts which are critical of myself or opposed to my views about Bakker. How many of you obnoxious Bakker folks would do the same? Jim certainly wouldn't now, would he?

Moderation is not yet turned on, for now I will simply delete comments which are an attempt to grief or spoof honest posters.

Enjoy your cake.

Brother Dortch said...

For those who have been to Bakker’s website lately, on page one is a story written by Jason Wert, with Jason’s photo attached, that is now seeking the amount of $10,000 to be sent to Jim Bakker. Jason says this money is needed because of additional monies spent to clear the land on the brand new site for Lori’s House. He is asking anybody who can help to send in the funds. While I suspected Jason was soon going to be asked to help raise money for his boss, I did not expect this would happen this soon. Remember Jason has just been hired by Bakker a matter of days, not weeks, ago.

Jason said, in his article written for Bakker, that some residents opposed the construction of Lori’s House and that Bakker, rather than fight them, decided to put the dispute in God’s hands. Apparently putting it in God’s hands has also meant that Bakker has now moved the site of Lori’s House to another section of Morningside which, as I understand it, is not subject to Stone County regulation but is only subject to the tiny hamlet of Blue Eye, MO regulations.

This project is another attempt by Bakker to build a “Group Home”. It is a “Group Home” for pregnant women and (something I did not know before I just read it on Bakker’s site) it will also be a home for non-pregnant women who are going through the post-abortion process. I heard a lot of fund raising go on for Lori’s House but I cannot recall any such fund raising going out over the air saying the home will also be for any women who are not pregnant. If I am wrong, and someone can correct me here, please do. I would suspect that if Bakker can fill the occupancy level of the home with but a few pregnant women and a lot of post abortive women, who are not pregnant, this would lend itself nicely to obtaining more free labor for Bakker since a post abortive woman will be able to work and do a lot more than a pregnant woman can do. I would also very strongly suggest to everyone reading this that “post-abortive” women will be a heck of a lot cheaper to care for at Lori’s House than a pregnant woman would be and that is certainly music to Bakker’s ears.

Brother Dortch said...

This leads me to another important question. As most of you already know, a $250,000 road has already been built to the old site of Lori’s House which is now defunct. I have not been on the grounds to view the new site but I am wondering if a brand new road will have to be built to carry women to and from the new location of the house. Hey Joe C…Is the new location of Lori’s House able to use the old road or are we going to have to endure another “Fake crying fest” while Bakker begs, for the second time, for money to build yet another new road? I am sure Joe knows this so I would like to hear what he has to say since he has been on the grounds and has information on this topic, I’m sure.

Finally, just because this new house location is now officially in Blue Eye and is to be built under what, if any, building regulations Blue Eye has, that does not mean it will be a regulatory free project. A “Group Home” for pregnant women is a matter which I am most certain The State of Missouri will regulate and oversee to make sure it is up to their standards. In fact, I am certain the home will not even be allowed to open until the state has inspected it and given it the green light. This inspection, it would seem to me, will not only cover the actual construction codes but the type and level of medical care that will be present at the home around the clock—24 hours a day. Jim Bakker may think it is easier to deal with the tiny government of little ole Blue Eye, but he will not avoid the state of Missouri and their concern that such a facility is being properly run.

For once, I would like Jim Bakker to come on TV and admit that he begged for construction and road money BEFORE he had the slightest idea of exactly what in the world he was doing. Call me a fool if you want, and/or call me old fashioned, however, it certainly seems very fair and logical to me that, not only Jim Bakker, but ANYBODY who wishes to raise funds, for such an undertaking as this in the future, should not be allowed to take to the public’s airwaves and beg for money UNTILL ALL CODES HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND THE PROJECT IS READY TO BE BUILT!

Tanya said...

A lot has gone on since I last posted.

Ron has proven that he does not remove comments lightly - I can only imagine what utter garbage was posted.

I also see that Ron correctly identified the April 19 @ 2:04pm as an imposter. Thank you, Ron.

Nobody attempted to address the lack of an Easter message from Jim Bakker. Starting to look like the Bakker-supporters are in agreement with that choice.

@Understanding man: is this the "catharsis" you believe Jason Wert instigated? Identity theft? Continued zero meaningful comments from Bakker-supporters?

Frankly, things have only gotten worse since Jason W. first posted, as evidenced by the rash of comments falsely made under the screen names of regular posters.

Perhaps the Morningside students did not appreciate being told to stop.

Tanya said...

So, Jason Wert has begun to appeal for money - and keep in mind, this appeal is because Jim Bakker did *not* follow the law regarding his intended project.

We may have seen the last of Jason Wert in these comments - I won't wait on any kind of one-on-one interaction with him, but I really would love to know his answer to: you have now used your own name and image to ask for large sums of money because Jim Bakker ignored the law - do you still think Jim Bakker is a changed man?

Brother Dortch: I am aware that the schedule of the TV shows is different in my area to many of the others who post - but so far, Jim Bakker has only spoken about "saving babies" and providing a restful place for pregnant women. The most recent show was entirely devoted to complaining about the "warfare" against him because he wants to "save babies," complaining that he now needs to hire lawyers, and selling the 2 stuffed animals (a larger one to be the mother sheep and a smaller one to be the lamb). Jim Bakker also spent a fair amount of time showing his new Jesus statue he is getting made, and the smaller versions of it that he is going sell.

Based on Jim Bakker's behaviour, putting the matter of Lori's House in God's hands involves: hiring lawyers, raising money, clearing more land (has that land been approved for building?), raising money, maintaining a binder with the pictures and artists' renditions of everything to do with Lori's House, raising money, taking zero responsibility for moving ahead without proper permits etc, raising money, raising money, and lastly, raising money.

HiddenMysteries.org Excerpt said...

Taken directly from Hidden Mysteries

"Religion's Frauds, Lies, Control"

"...Jim Bakker claimed that the PTL sent "a large monthly contribution to Mark Buntain whose overseas ministry feeds 12,000 children a day."(5) However, the Charlotte Observer reported in 1979that the PTL raised thousands of dollars for foreign missions that never went to the missions.(23) In 1986 the PTL claimed it was in the process of building a School of Evangelism which would use missionaries, radio, and television to send its message around the globe. This,
as with many other Bakker schemes, never happened.(4,23)..."

Was He A Thief? said...

"Was He A Thief?"
--by John Davies on 10-10-2003

"Cephas Files: General Complaints About Churches, Religious Leaders And Others"

"Yes, some deceived Pentecostals don't want to face the fact that Bisexual Jim Bakker is a thief who has never never repented of the fact that he was a thief or bisexual. He wrote a book stating ‘I was wrong’ for teaching prosperity but never said he was wrong for being bisexual or a thief.

Assembly of God preacher and Evangelist Jim Bakker presided as the king over one of the most corrupt television ministries of the past two decades. A successful televangelism group run by Jim and Tammy Bakker is a testimony that Evangelical pastors sold their own souls just to make their wallets thicker, when they were supposed to bring God to the people. As a result Jim Bakker and his sidekick Richard Dortch ended up in prison accused of sexual immorality, tax evasion, and racketeering. The wave of corruption not only affected other televangelists such as Jimmy Swaggart, but also showed a dark, dirty fight for the control of PTL among several other prominent televangelists.

...Richard Dortch, senior vice-president of PTL and associate pastor of Heritage Village Church, said pride, arrogance and secrets led to the PTL scandal. While most people never face temptations on the same scale, the ingredients for seemingly smaller failures are the same, he said. Dortch said the men in PTL's leadership felt they were above accountability. They felt specially called by God and accountable only to Him. He said they didn't plan the scandal; instead, it was the natural result of living for oneself, rather than for God.

Most people are aware of Jim Bakker's $265,000 payoff to Jessica Hahn to keep her sexual services to him a secret, his longtime homosexual relationship with his right hand man David Taggart, his prison sentence, his close relationship to Billy Graham, and his lust for public spotlight.

That Jim Bakker was corrupt and perverted is a fact established by (many) sources including Michael Isikoff of the Washington Post who is impeccable when doing reporting..."

SusanD said...

Personally I am not surprise by Mr. Werts pleas for donations for Lori’s House on Bakers site. I did find it amusing that they said there was an added expense of ten thousand dollars to clear the new site, since during the live taping Jim had the visitors that came for the Rabi Yawn’s workshop going down there to clear trees. Come on Jimbo I know you didn’t pay the volunteers… lolol I don’t know but this Lori’s house gives me flash backs to Kevin’s house for some reason.

Anonymous said...

Where can I read the rules to this site?

Anonymous said...

Maybe the Bucket crew are being a little bit judgemental about the Morningside bunch. Perhaps the people you accuse of dirty methods have nothing to do with Morningside at all. Perhaps they are just trolls, agitators, mischief makers who could give a rat's ass about Bakker. Personally, I can't picture a good kid like Zach or Nolan or little Jim behaving in such a fashion.

Tanya said...

SusanD: on Lori's House II Jim Bakker said that the people who signed the petition against Lori's House said, amongst other things, that the home would be "shoddy."

Jim proceeded to show all the pages in his Lori's House Binder: artists' renditions, pictures of how he wants the inside to be designed, etc. Lori kept saying in the background how beautiful the house is going to be and how she wants to live in a house like that herself.

Jim said he gave these pictures to the builders and said "this is what I want it to look like," he also said "I don't do shoddy."

He did not mention Kevin's House as he complained about how people were treating him. No surprise there - but it sounds like whoever is opposing Lori's House knows about Kevin's House.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Anon@828am

Oh right. Zach is a good man. Such a well behaved man.

Not!

Current Position: Morningside Student / Jim Bakker Prophet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpdCcaFOuH0&feature=related

Blinkey said...

Oh sure! The Morningside crew needs to respond to questions put forth; but Joe C. doesn't have to answer old Uncle Henry's questions. FOUL!!!

Craig said...

@Blinky
Why should Joe C give you anymore information about the meeting than bakker does?

Cindy B. said...

There are enough legitimate questions here for any person who wishes to support Mr. Bakker to answer. Let me add one.

Considering the new hiring of Jason Wert, wouldn't this have been a great job for any one of the students to have? Instead, as shown here, the students are not able to properly write beyond a grade school level and now Bakker had to actually hire an outsider to write simple blog posts for him.

I do not see any of these students going on to work for the major TV networks when they lack such basic skills. Even a church pastor needs to write well in church related publications weekly and this is a skill lacking at the college. It's sad but true.

SusanD said...

Tanya,
I do remember Kevin's House it was shoddy. I am not sure if Kevin ever got to move in.....so no one can blame local people for their concern. I saw Jim's pictures of Lori's House, wow someone needs some designing taste lolol

Los Angeles Ministry Worker said...

I see many similarities between Kevin's House and Lori's House. I also agree with those who say the ones opposing Lori's House today are remembering what happened not only with the construction of, but the funds raised, for Kevin's House yesterday. I also find it fascinating that actual Morningside residents themselves voted against the Lori's House project. Who is to blame for all of this? I say it is the person who never mentions Kevin's House when he is yelling and screaming at his audience at the top of his voice and takes no blame for any of it. It is, as ususal, someone else's fault like everything else that does not go exactly his own way.

It will not be too much longer when Pastor Bakker is either dead or arrested again and the ministry, as you now see it, will be totally out of business. It is those who are hanging their hat on making money from the ministry indefinitely who do not want to believe that their cult leader is still a corrupt person. I would suggest rather than follow a sexual deviant, as well as corrupt and greedy person, these people, especially the youth, obtain the necessary skills from a legitimate college and then a seminary and they will be much more confident, not to mention legitimate, in their ability to make a living spreading the word of God. Then, after you are in your own ministry, do not do like your leader does. Keep all financial details and transactions open to the public. This avoids the appearance of impropriety and is the most respectful way to say "Thank-you" to those who contribute their hard earned money to your organization.

Troll Zombie said...

I don't think any of the Master's students are expecting to go to major secular networks. I've always heard Master's Media billed as a program that trains youth for work in Christian broadcasting.

Whether or not they are considered legitimate for Christian broadcasting with the education their getting is the question. And, sadly, with the exception of the 3ABN Adventist channel, I've never seen any Christian broadcasting that isn't asking for money and preaching the prosperity gospel that Jim (has decided he) despises.

Cindy B. said...

When you consider the fact that none of the students have ever gone on to get so much as one job at any network, either Christian or secular, the worth of the "education" (???) they are receiving speaks for itself. The students of the fake college today are the employees of McDonalds, Burger King, and Taco Bell of tomorrow.

guidance said...

You know they are not going to get hired by any network (major or otherwise) and I know this. The problem is the students don't know this. I'm sure there are some who kissed butt (Zach,Nolan) so they are earmarked for bigger things and will do OK. It is the ones packing and shipping that junk , in the warehouse or cutting grass, or custodial work that will be lost.

Craig said...

Lol Cindy. Those will be the lucky ones.

Grandma Char Groupie said...

It has been a while since I have posted anything on this forum but allow me to add to the discussion by saying this. There is a local TV station in Branson that would love to have fresh young talent to add to their payroll and even they do not hire kids from Bakker's college.

When you look at Jim Bakker's top student, Zach Drew, on YouTube asking someone if they have "poop in their pants" from eating chicken pot pies then the reason why these students have never gotten a TV network job becames clearer and clearer. It is doubtful any of them will go on to be professionals in television. If you don't believe this, just ask Jason Wert. He claims to have twenty-years experience in broadcasting, as well as a four year college degree, and he has just come off of one-years worth of unemployment. With qualifications such as this, and no job, imagine what is going to happen when these kids go out and try to find a job with no years experience and no college degree. It is no wonder that even Jason, himself, is telling the kids it will be much harder for them to get employed. Using Jim Bakker's fake school as a means of getting educated to find a job is the biggest mistake any of these kids, or their parents who allow them to go there, will ever make. It is a total waste of time unless you are a drug addict or homeless person who is looking to trade your labor for a free place to stay.

Anonymous said...

Everything in life is a gamble. How many people are there who earned BS, MS degrees and are unemployed? How many people with degrees in a certain dicipline are working in unrelated fields? No one has a crystal ball and can predict the future, let these kids learn for themselves. You folks make a mountain out of a mole hill the point is these kids are gaining knowledge and experience. Even the wrong knowledge is better then no knowledge gained, just hanging on a corner. Hold your water and cool out.

Craig said...

@1:00.
Life is tough enough without having to list jim bakker's fake media scbool on their resume'. There are much better ways to learn media skills and/or ministry work. The grads from the fake school and the quality of products they've displayed tell us all we need to know about the fake school.

Grandma Maxine said...

Because of Joe C. and his petition, Jim had to move the location of the construction of Lori's House to another area on the property!

Granny glasses said...

What kind of victory is that for Joe C? A pyrric victory? Better to keep an amicable understanding, that's where Joe C. made his first mistake. He just pissed off everybody and gained very little. Joe C. sometimes you have to measure what you stand to gain against what it might cost. Best to maintain a cool head, to destroy an adversary the smart man will at first make him angry.

Kool-Aid Kid said...

I think it's time to make an appointment for an eye exam because those granny glasses you have are out of focus and out of style I must also admit.

Joe C did what was best for him and those that shared his concern.

Joe C For Mayor

Anonymous said...

Joe C. for Mayor!:)

Anonymous said...

to 2:07,,,, Wow! I bet your words of wisdom really make Joe C. feel better. lol lol

Freddy C. said...

JOE C. FOR MAJOR.

Anonymous said...

One thing for sure, you can never say again that this blog isn't censored. If you do, that would be a lie.

Anonymous said...

I don't blame the administrator, he makes the calls as he sees them. I blame Kool-aid-Kid----freaky baby!!!!

Craig said...

@2:13. What makes you think Joe C feels bad?

Brother Dortch said...

Good evening everyone!

There are some very intelligent postings on the board today and I commend each and every one of you for what you have said. It is so refreshing to read all of your comments and thank you all!

I would like to address the poster @1:00 pm who says life is a gamble. Sure it is. Yes, there are plenty of people who have degrees in a certain field and have gone on to pursue employment in a different field. I, personally, know of two very good friends of mine who are both licensed attorneys who have never tried a case but, instead, have opted to enter the field of business as entrepreneurs and have both become very successful at it. Despite this fact, neither one of them would ever tell you they wish they would have never gotten a good education. Keep one thing in mind, if you will. In the case of a four-year Bachelor Degree student, the first two years are dedicated to what is known a "Common Curriculum" (a/k/a "Core Curriculum) courses which are designed to give the student an education in such subjects as English (which all students must take), speech, history, literature, math, geography, social studies, sociology, and the like. These courses will pinpoint where a student is weak and the student and college themselves can work out any potential problems early on to make sure the weak points are ironed out. This is an area where Jim Bakker's "students" are seriously lacking. Case in point: James Chapman. We have all seen his writing and this is a COLLEGE TEACHER at Bakker's school and not just a student. It was James who wrote this gem on the local Branson forum:

"Well he has giveing over 1million $ to girls home in Moldova to help girls who are sex trafficked.....what have you done?"

I will submit to all of you this would never happen at the hand of a qualified Masters Degree (or above) college professor. But, since he is Jim's grandson, let us forget about what is an obvious lack of ability to write above a grammar school level. Nepotism is obviously more important. To call this young man "college teacher" material is blasphemy of anyone who has dedicated their lives to the field of professional education.

Anonymous said...

The'administrator' is just another controller - exactly like the ones he says he hates.

Brother Dortch said...

To tell his "students" that he makes a take home salary of only $400 a week and then drives a new truck, a new boat, lives in a "cabin" that is not a cabin at all, and then...worst of all...is setting an example for these kids that it is perfectly OK to live your life dodging the government and not paying your taxes is just plain wrong. Please notice that I have not even gone into his homosexuality or his inability to tell the truth on most occasions or to take blame for his own illegal and immoral actions.

Jim Bakker, and no one else, is calling what he runs in Blue Eye a "college" and that is a false statement. He is lying to and defrauding his own young "students" as well as their parents. This also is plain wrong and is something a true "Man of God" would never do.

The bottom line here is that the leopard has not changed its spots. It is the belief of many here, including myself, that association with this convicted felon will hurt these kids more than help them. I would rather see them get a job at a hamburger joint and then get promoted to manager where they could make $50,000 a year and maybe even go on one day to own their own franchise. That would be far more valuable, as my eyes see it, than to sit on a bunk bed at Morningside and scratch your head wondering if everything you are being told, by a known confidence man, is true and will result in any major television network seeking you out as an addition to their employment roster because you were an associate of Jim Bakker.

Being an associate of, including a "College Student" of Jim Bakker will cause you more harm than good and the youth of America are better advised to stay away from a closeted gay who hasn't even learned his lesson yet--despite spending five-years in a federal penitentiary.

Anonymous said...

Well how do you like that. Dortsch thinks the 'intelligent' comments today are "refreshing."

Amazing how the bucketeers sanctify their hateful rhetoric.

Anonymous said...

@2:41...No matter what the situation...You need someone to maintain control...Jobs, Sports, School.....That's the nature of things. The administrator is needed to call the tough shots.It would be utter chaos. This guy is very fair.

Anonymous said...

You're an idiot, Dortsch.

James is one of the most intelligent young men I've had the pleasure of meeting. He's also eons ahead of you in his spiritual maturity.

You're pathetic when all you can do is attack grammar. Pathetic, miserable human being.

Anonymous said...

To the bozo at 2:41:

Chaos is acceptable when it comes from the bucketeers - but others get censored. How is THAT fair?

Anonymous said...

Correction: to the bozo @ 2:47

Brother Dortch said...

I support Joe C for Mayor!

Dortch has a point. said...

Dortch is right though! It is an insult to the students intellect in itself to call these "ne're-do-wells" teachers. Maybe helpers or assistants but not qualified knowledgeable academics. I mean they can instruct, like a person instructs another to shovel manure, but not teach.

Anonymous said...

Well hey, I guess that leaves out a genuine multitude of genius-level individuals.

Don't believe me? Go online and see how many geniuses couldn't spell.

You're all a bunch of idiots.

James could teach you all how to be human.... maybe.

Brother Dortch said...

As usual, the Morningside crew has twisted and turned what I was saying around to improperly attack me.

Please re-read what I said. I never once said a bad thing about the intelligence of or the "spiritual maturity" of Grandson James. All I said is he has no business being referred to as a "college teacher" and I have millions of others, who have dedicated their entire lives to the field of professional education, that would readily agree with every work I said.

Calling him a "helper" or "youth instructor" is fine...a "college teacher" no way!

Tanya said...

@ 1pm anonymous: "even the wrong knowledge is better than no knowledge gained..."

If you are serious about that comment (and that's a doozy - frankly, as an example, I'd rather know nothing about electrical work vs. get the wrong knowledge, try to re-wire a plug socket, and electrocute myself... but whatever works for you), you have read all the comments about the school, why it is fake, and what that means to the "students," and you still think we are making a mountain out of a molehill - well, no point trying to convince you otherwise.

I continue to believe it is wrong to recruit students by calling the school a "college," I think these students would be much better served getting a degree from an accredited post-secondary school, and I think that having Jim Bakker's school on their resume could be a serious detriment.

Here is wisdom. said...

If all you Morningside morons would cease the insults and flabby attacks and just listen. Sit back, read, digest all the truth on this blog, you might thank us in 5 years or so.

Anonymous said...

Thank God they're not taught by you, Dortsch. Thank God they're not taught your insane bitterness and hate. Thank God they're taught your Absalom ways.

Craig said...

@2:31 & 2:34. You people just don't get it. It wasn't censorship or moderation that Ron did. He just handed out a dose of discipline to you kids. If you want to deceive people then find somewhere else to do it. I don't want to give an ethics lesson but here it goes anyway. If you want to poke fun at someone, pick a similar name such as Flav-r-aid Kid. Or perhaps go under anonymous and say: My Brother Dortch impression.
What you did yesterday will get your butt banned from 99% of the websites. You should have been given instructions by someone at morningside about ethical conduct and internet usage. However, even without guidance you should have felt a twinge of guilt if you have any mores at all. You're welcome and happy posting.

Anonymous said...

Do you realize how stupid you sound Craig, when 3/4 of you people post under somebody else's name?

And what are mores? bwwhhaaaaaa

Grandma Maxine said...

Joe C. just prolonged the inevitable. He had good intentions at the beginning but Jim has deep pockets and greased a few palms so the residents that began the petition would step aside. Now he can build Lori's House in a different location with no interference to stop him!

Brother Dortch said...

If you don't want to believe me that is fine. Then don't! Let's let the job placement figures of this fine non-accredited school speak for themselves. OK, here we go:

Nearly four years of graduating "students" and

NOT ONE TV NETWORK JOB OBTAINED

The figures speak for themselves!

Tanya said...

Re: need for a moderator.

Did you all read yesterday's comments?

I hope this is a case of playing dumb, and not real questions -- comments were removed because people were using the screen names of established anti-Bakker-behaviour posters, and posting under that name.

If you want fair, 2:50pm, choose your own screen name, keep it, and post under it. Do not steal other people's screen names, do not pretend to be someone else. Simple.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Joe C. took the payola from Jim along with a pink little lamb wristband and 2 stuffed lambs and is high tailing it out of town...

Anonymous said...

Well you got placed there, didn't ya Dortsch? Trouble is your sorry butt was canned and now you can't stop telling about how bad it all was. If you were still drawing a paycheck, you'd be singing a different tune.

Hypocrite.

Habitacy said...

to 2:59....Do you proclaim to be a genius? Is little Jim a genius? Genius shows itself!

Anonymous said...

Dipstick @ 3:27: It sure don't show itself here.

Based on Dortsch's analogy, Einstein is not qualified to teach. Is that too hard for you to follow?

Brother Dortch said...

To the bitter poster at April 20, 2012 3:23 PM,

Please refer me, and everyone else on this blog, to the exact posting, by date and time of day, where either my gender or identity was revealed. Once I see that post, I will comment on it here and let you know if what you are saying is even remotely true or is something you just happened to make up because you have nothing else constructive to say.

Remember now, that is a posting by exact date (Month/Day/Year) and exact time of day.

I will await your response!

Craig said...

@3:11. Are you nitpicking my spelling? Don't make me grab a Webster's. BTW, I always post as blogger Craig.

Anonymous said...

Here's what I'll refer you to, Dancing Dortsch. You have never said "I did not work for Jim Bakker and he did not fire me." Why not? Because you did - and he did - that's why. Even you can't lie that big.

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