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Saturday, May 12, 2012

Jim Bakker exploits 9/11 attacks to sell product, censors YouTube videos of his own show

Pastor Jim Bakker throwing a temper tantrum
If you hadn't already noticed, Jim Bakker and Morningside Church, Inc requested that the Foodbucket Fanpage YouTube videos documenting his slimy actions be taken down out of public view. This confuses me, Pastor Jim. Because if you're preaching the gospel, that divine truth provided by God for all mankind to hear, shouldn't you want this message being spread as far and wide as possible? Isn't that what a true man of God would want?

To be clear, the videos of Jim Bakker that were on YouTube were no different than those Jim puts out every weekday morning, they were only shorter in duration. Small clips, unedited and unchanged. The only thing added to them was my critique, which was apparently spot on since Jim couldn't bear having them available for the world to read.

Let me tell you a little something, Pastor Bakker. Real preachers don't sacrifice Christ's message in order to save themselves from scorn. In taking down videos of your very own show, you did just that.
Morningside Church Inc doesn't want God's message on YouTube?
 Wait, I take that back. You didn't sacrifice Christ's message to save yourself, because the truth of the matter is that you, Jim Bakker, didn't deliver any gospel message. You aren't a real preacher at all, you just play one on tv. You're a convicted con man who exploits old people, dumb people, and the tax code in order to leech yourself a livelihood. You had the videos removed because you don't want people getting clued-in to your game. Considering that nearly your entire show consists of peddling fear-buckets and other garbage, and that you are, in fact, a convicted fraud who served time in federal prison, it's not too hard to reach that conclusion. A real preacher wouldn't use their entire show to sell product, Jim. And if they were selling anything to fund-raise it would be sermon CDs, not Jim Bakker-branded Cereal.

While I could petition YouTube to reinstate the Foodbucket Fanpage videos, I don't have the time or the desire to fight Jim Bakker's Morningside Inc over them. However, I treat my own words and thoughts with far more reverence. As a member of the media and with Fair Use and the 1stAmendment on my side, you will not silence me here, Jim.

9/11 victims being exploited for a $55 book
You are corrupt, Jim Bakker, and you are a corrupting influence on everything around you. The kids you've duped into 'attending' your fake college have been corrupted by you. The presumably well-meaning Christians who follow you have been corrupted as well. Instead of worshiping God, they worship you. They give you money so you can spend it on 15-foot gargoyles and self-serving projects like Lori's House, then they come to this blog and defend you as if you were Christ himself.

You are so corrupting that you are able to use video of the 9/11 terrorist attacks as a scare tactic to sell product without anybody within your cult questioning it. Nearly 3,000 people died in those attacks, Pastor Jim, yet you have no qualms whatsoever with replaying those attacks over and over again, from multiple angles, to scare people into buying your products. And your followers, amazingly, see nothing wrong with this. I guess it's true what they say: One bad apple spoils the bunch. And guess who that bad apple is, Jim?

Try as hard as you want, Jim, but you will not silence me here. If we ever found ourselves in a courtroom over your trouncing of my 1st Amendment rights, it would be a dream come true for this blogger.

Ron Johnson arriving for court
It will be a circus atmosphere, because I'll make it one. I'll arrive to court wearing stilts and maybe a big parrot perched on my shoulder. Aspiring young actors will be hired to give both comedic and dramatic readings of each of my blog posts to the captive audience of 12 jurors, a judge, and courtroom spectators. Together, we'll watch exhibit A, your show. We will compare your shows to my posts and dissect them, over and over again. The jury will hear you speak about Lori's five abortions. They'll see you fake cry. They'll hear you give phony prophecy about Steve Jobs...remember that one, Jim? Remember when you forgot the late Mr Job's first name? It was hilarious, but you didn't laugh because you were concentrating on telling your lie.

Just as you lost pathetically in your first courtroom appearance, you would lose again in your second. That's because you are wrong, Jim Bakker, and you know it. As this blog gains more and more attention, the likelihood of you being investigated increases. You and Morningside Church, Inc can censor Jim Bakker Show videos on YouTube to your evil heart's content, but you will not censor my own thoughts and words without a fight.

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help the deserving said...

ey if Pastor calls for some kind soul to write a check for one million and it's fruitful, more power to him. A lot of folks out there believe in the Pastor. A lot of the folks are wealthy and know a good thing when they see it. Reverend Oral Roberts once asked for a million or God was going to call him home, know what, he got the million! If Pastor get's the money why should it bother you. Jessica went to Vegas and maybe blew thousands on the slot machines, why didn't she give it to charity. You folks have things backwards, to give to a good benefit like Morningside helps humanity.

Anonymous said...

He got his millions alright!

In 1987, with costs spiraling out of control, the medical center went largely vacant.Roberts told a television audience unless he raised $8 million by March, God would "call him home" (a euphemism for death). The donations goal was reached but Roberts soon began looking for buyers or people to manage the facility. In 1989, only eight years after it opened, the City of Faith was $25 million in debt and Roberts closed the hospital (the last patient left on 16 October).

Tanya said...

"Dortsch anonymous" - OK, I looked at the dates/times you gave me. They do not support your allegation. In fact, they refute it. Brother Dortch's post today at 10:28am is correct. So... I do not understand where you are coming from. Except that you have a lot of venom backed-up and would perhaps benefit from some therapy.

Tanya said...

help the deserving: here's a suggestion that may increase people's belief that Jim Bakker is helping humanity - there is a website "MinistryWatch.com" that has the following goal (from their website): "The objective is to limit consequences of scams and prevention of fraudulent activity, promote better allocations of giving, encourage intelligent questions of organizational structure, financial health, and advance the idea of organizational transparency and best practices."

MinistryWatch maintains a "donor alert" list where they caution people about questionable practices - the 2011 list includes: Kenneth Copeland and TBN. They also keep a list of "Shining Light" ministries - ministries that do exemplary work.

MinistryWatch has no record that I can find of Jim Bakker or Morningside.

How about - you know, because of all the questions about the finances, the constant running out of money, the contradictions and inconsistencies - Jim Bakker work with MinistryWatch and become a Shining Light? Then people could donate with confidence.

People can also send a request into MinistryWatch to add Morningside to their list of ministries to assess... but, they state "It is much easier to start research and a dialog with a ministry that is ready and willing to communicate with us."

Somehow I have a feeling Jim Bakker won't be all that willing to communicate.

Cindy B. said...

Tanya, Did you see the posting at

May 18, 2012 12:25 PM

That is also a person with some issues too LOL!!!!!

Craig said...

Lolol@ the Oral Roberts reference.

Anonymous said...

Rob Bob said...
Brother Dortch, who are you calling "Grandma"?

Tanya are you a Canuck?

May 18, 2012 1:28 PM

fruity powder drink boy said...

Anon@625pm

Just ask her if she knows how to "roll up the rim", eh?

If she knows what that is then she's a good Canuck.

Hi Tanya.

Jessica said...

Help the deserving @2:15 p.m. Thank you for your suggestion regarding how much money I spend in Vegas and why not donate it to charities and help the deserving instead of being so frivolous.

Okay person. I'll stop being so selfish with my time and money. At your suggestion, I will donate to a charity as soon as possible and I won't deduct it on my tax return for 2012 either just to prove to you what a great gal I am. Did Bakker ask you to scold me?

Anything else darlin?

Anonymous said...

Tanya and Brother Dortch answer the above questions!

Anonymous said...

Hi Jessica,

The self righteous christian from the Bakker camp who preached to you about how you spend your money gives their money to Jim Bakker. This fool thinks giving to Jim Bakker is a worthwhile use of her money! What a joke these folks from the cult are. Your odds are better in Vegas than with Bakker. The people supporting Bakker shouldn't preach at anyone about being selfish. There isn't a more self centered bunch than what you get with the Bakkerites. They hide out in their compound storing up all the junk Jim sells them to survive in this world they judge as wicked. They are not a classy bunch fools!

Ole hubcap said...

I just wish you young ones were around in the 80s for the old PTL club. It was a great era, Reagan as President giving us limited fears about terrorism none of this post 911 concerns. Heritage and PTL made you feel good about yourself and life in general. I like Lori but she is not Tammy Faye. She is Isabel Peron to Tammy's Evita Peron you might say. The older folks have the money so let them donate if it makes them feel good. The daughter has a spectacular voice and is very sweet.

Anonymous said...

"I just wish you young ones were around in the 80s for the old PTL club......."

Hubcap. What have you been smoking? Do they have a very powerful brand of reefer madness out in Missouri?

I am an old one too and lived through the embarrassment and anger I felt as a young Christian back then. People would come up to me - including my relatives - and say, "so that's the kind of Christianity you're telling me I need? I don't want any part of it!"

Bakker people talk about the people he has allegedly drawn to Christ; well, how about the tens of thousands he undoubtedly has caused to REJECT Christianity because of his antics.

Cant keep a good man down. said...

Pastor Jim Bakker's theme song should be "Eye of the Tiger" by Duran Duran. Either that or "I will survive", by Gloria Gaynor.

Cant keep a good man down. said...

Pastor Jim Bakker's theme song should be "Eye of the Tiger" by Duran Duran. Either that or "I will survive", by Gloria Gaynor.

Can't keep a good man down @2. said...

I mean Survivor not Duran Duran. Sorry for the confusion.

Anonymous said...

to 6:05; Ha! They'll answer that when JoeC. answers all the questions he's been asked. Cites the 5th and Stonewalls all the questions he's asked.

Anonymous said...

The Atlantic Wire has a story about Jim

Go to google news and type in Bakker and it will pop up

Anonymous said...

The Atlantic Wire's headline is,
"Jim Bakker's Doomsday Survival Gear Is Way Overpriced"

The story ends with this,
" We can't speak to the fate of the world, but we do know this: if you pay what Bakker charges for survival gear, will end your personal prosperity a whole lot sooner."

@tokyodisney said...

I posted a question about the lack of a Morningside/Bakker form 990.

Some pro Bakker poster said that I'd see the financials if I donated.

I called and asked and no that's not the case.

Anonymous said...

What I find soooooooo ironic about the Heritage money scandals is that the Bakkers didn't need to engage in those antics to live like royalty. All they had to do was live off of the income from the books, tapes, etc. His CPA would crunch the numbers and tell him how much tax deductable money he needed to pump back in the ministry to keep him happily wealthy but not so that it would alientate donors. At that point you pay your taxes after deductions like everyone else and enjoy the good life. It would have worked. I guess that was too simple and honest.

I had a fit when Tammy Sue first arrived and he announced that she never received a penny from her first album which sold like crazy. Stealing from a child (his own child) is beyond comprehension. Then he said they, whoever they are, were going to give her, her own condo at Morningstar for whenever she is there. That young woman looks like a wounded bird who needs extensive therapy. I say that with the deepest respect. She has been to hell and back. That jerk of a father will only use her as a poster child for the poor, abused Bakkers. When she is no longer an asset, he will kick her to the curb. I am disgusted.

Anonymous said...

OOOOOPS! Morningside. LOL. Oldtimers is setting in.

The Dude said...

Tammy Sue isn't the only Bakker kid that needs extensive therapy. Have you checked out his preacher son? What a messed up bag of crap. Next up at the shrink's, his 2 youngest bought kids.

Anonymous said...

Tanya and Bro D dont pull a Joe C answer the above questions!

Anonymoose said...

There was a show last week that I caught on the archive section of the web site. Momma Lori and TS went back and forth about how much they loved each other. Did anyone believe that? I think TS's voice has died some. If you catch her on youtube when she was younger it seems like it was a lot better back then.

Anonymous said...

I imagine any impressionable youngster that has come under his sphere of influence is damaged goods. I think it is quite possible that Jay Bakker e is in better shape psychologically and spiritually than one may think. He has gotten lots of therapy after years of various forms of self abuse. Would I chose his lifestyle? No. That's just my opinion. If he is ministering to the unloved/unlovely and actually reaching many of them, I think he has made it out the other side in better shape than I expected. I wish Tammy Sue had not turned James over to her father. I imagine she felt she had no other option, given what she has gone through with her mother's illness, death and struggles afterwards. It's one sad, sick situation.

Joe C Blue eye, Missouri said...

Anon 7:25,
Call me 417-559-0444.
How do I know my phone will know my phone will not ring. I have nothing to hide.

Joe C Blue eye, Missouri said...

Buy me out anon, set me free.

Jesse said...

Joe C has anyone called and talked to you about what happened?

Joe C Blue eye, Missouri said...

Was trying to edit my first post and I did not do a good job, excuse the lack of proper structure.

Joe C Blue eye, Missouri said...

Jesse,
I got a call from Craig, the only call I received.

Anonymous said...

Sell your property to Jim. He's got cash and he's always looking to build...

Joe C Blue eye, Missouri said...

Thank you anon,8:13. I can see you have an open mind and can put yourself in my shoes.

If you do not know what you are talking about, call me. 417-559-0444

Joe C Blue eye, Missourti said...

That's what I thought.
Grow a set of balls.

Anonymous said...

I think Lori's House was always supposed to be built at the current site. I think the other site was a scam to open up a road for further developement. Lori's House is just a front to raise money that is being rerouted elsewhere. It is a facade to raise money that would be difficult to raise otherwise. When the other projects are done, Lori's House will be completed suddenly. This is ancient history. I was close with the director of the People That Love Centers and that project was badly abused. I say that as one of the early, huge centers that was promised the world in the way of support. They gave updates on our center and gave monthly stats. In return, we got truck loads of crap from the warehouses that they couldnt give away. Forget the missions' money we were promised and financial planning we did, based on their promises. I contacted Springfield over a Christmas distribution that they darn near ruined. My staff and myself took a 25% cut in low pay for three months to pay off our vendors who extended us credit on food that was purchased at cost. We got the good rate because we promised cash on delivery. We were blessed that they forgave us and gave us 90 days to clear the debt as we were riding on their nickel. Jeff, the national director, was beside himself on how things were operating and that he was director in name only. He was surprised that we were not attending the first People That Love Conference. I told him that we could spend what little money we had and would not use any ministry money after just getting the employees back up to normal wages. PTL offered to pay our expenses as a way of shutting us up and offered to put us up on the VIP floor of the original hotel. I told Jeff we could scrape together gas money if they would put us up in a modest cabin. I heard more horror stories at that conference than you can imagine.

The Bakker ministry will come down again. It will come from within as it did the first time. You just cant buid on that kind of foundation. Just sit back and watch it happen.

Anonymous said...

Can you tell more about the People That Love centers?

I remember a PTL office in our town a nd never understood what it was for.

Were they like Goodwill? Were they financed by PTL?

Anonymous said...

I dont get the layout of Grace Street.

It seemed like Main St Heritage was fairly large.
Grace Street seems really small in comparison.

Anonymous said...

This link is to virtualglobetrotting

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/site-of-jim-bakkers-morningside-church/view/?service=0

If it doesnt work, just go to the virtualgobetrotting site

There is a paved road going way back in the woods to what i guess is the tabernacle.

Heres where I'm confused.
This satellite shot would have been taken last year in warm weather, maybe fall.
This image has been avail for months and the trees are all green so its most likely last year.

What was the land beside the tabernacle cleared for last year?
Look at the image
Follow the road from the Grace Street building back to the tabernacle

Surly old coot said...

Joe C just tell us the daggum story of what happened. Stop being yellow by giving us a number and be a man by putting it out here for everyone to see!

Mr Kid please go back to the original name KAK!

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Okay Mr. Coot.

Done.

:)

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous @ 9:38,

I pray you are correct and there is a person, or persons in that ministry with brains and guts enough to speak out. My guess is there is not at this point. Many people have been railroaded, abused, and discarded as you described from your PTL experience. They walk away and say and do nothing. The reason PTL went down is because there were true Christians who realized the deceitfulness if Jim and Tammy Faye and had to guts to do the right thing. I believe Jim is wiser this time and won't keep those around who have the moral integrity to stand up to him. You will not find high caliber Christians surrounding him now. There were two camps of followers back in the PTL days, those with no Godly wisdom who worshiped Jim and Tammy Faye, and those who worshiped God and wanted to serve Him. Today it's those folks with no wisdom again who are suckered by Jims crocodile tears and phony admissions of wrong doings. They believed Jim was falsely accused and wrongfully imprisoned. They now are back to worshiping Jim and blindly supporting him. I have watched them at the live show hearing what they must know are lies coming out of Jim's mouth and they just sit there like bobble heads nodding their heads in agreement. It is disgusting to say the least! It's frightening watching Jesus' warning that in the last days there will be many being led astray happening so clearing in front of my face. The bible does say you can be sure you're sin will find you out. It will be interesting to see how God brings it all down this time.

Old grey mare said...

What I like about Jim's show is the structure, how it's put together. I especially like having the younger generation give their feed on life as it is to them. Zach, Little Jim, Sacha and the rest give a heart warming and thorough insight into a youngster POV. They are excellent spokesfolks for their contemporaries, if the majority of kids think like them I'd say the future looks bright.

Anonymous said...

Obviously somebody is being paid to come here and praise Jim. Wonder who that can be?

Anonymous said...

To the old grey mare @ 8:30,

Jim thinks the same as you, that's why he censoring what the kids are putting out on you tube now. lol! If the majority of kids think like these kids we are all in trouble!

Anonymous said...

More headlines.
lol

Disgraced televangelist JIM BAKKER hit shocking new low pitching apocalypse survival gear and “silver solution” enemas to worshippers in bizarre money making scheme.

.Financially strapped Bakker, 72, who owes the IRS $6 million, is pitching those strange products and others along with his book “Prosperity and the Coming Apocalypse” on his website.

“Jim Bakker has appeared to hit rock bottom!” declared a close source.

Shirley said...

I agree JoeC. should for once and for all let us in on what transpired that fatefull day. He tries the old con by giving out a phoney phone number. I'll bet you that number is not even his, probably a recorded political campaign or the time. I notice Dortch and the kid and others don't even support him for Mayor anymore. They are tired of the bullshit too, it appears.

Surly old coot said...

That's right Shirley as someone said the number is to a some daggum restaurant. Everyone realizes now that he's a yellow bellied weasel and just likes to play mind games!

Jessica said...

Its Sunday a perfect day for the Bakker christian s to respond to me as to why they called me a sinner and told me to go hell. I am still waiting to hear from one of them so they could explain why they don't want to save my soul. They must not like me.

Why are the christens avoiding me? The obvious deduction is they just "blew me off"? Jason, whatever his name, said on this blog that he was educated, but now seems to be stalling or stumped on how to respond to my shout out about the name calling I received from one of the anonymous persons from Bakkerland. I couldn't swear under oath but someone is a lot of hot air!

Hey zombies...be careful what you wish for. The future is staring you in the face and I'm glad I don't have to waddle on your path stuck on a mountain. Ugh.

Going to the beach here in sunny California today. Life is good. To everyone that I care about on this blog...enjoy your day.

Ernest said...

Figures Jessica lives in Calif. Home of some of the strangest people from Porn actors to Kennedys. San Fransico is nothing but gays and Los Angeles is for wiedos and druggies. San Diego is probably the only decent area in the whole lousy state. All degenerates, druggies and derelicts.

Surly old coot said...

Ernie where do you live?

Kool-Aid Kid said...

Ernest lives in a dirty toliet bowl.

Ernest said...

I live coordinates: 26 degree 37'54" North at 81 dgree 51' 26" West

Anonymous said...

My 84 year old mother has been bilked by this mind-fucking ass hole and every day I pray for his death and visualize him burning in hell!

Anonymous said...

Jim should do a breakdancing show to get his funkiness relevance level up with the youth and star in himself as "funk master jimmy bear"

Anonymous said...

Jim Bakker is less pastor than a sales person on his show is sales all the time the first time when I watched his show I thought that I am watching QVC TV Jim Bakker is not religious show he is a greedy person and a hypocrite pastor he is excellent selling and training his team which include Two fat guys a fat lady and another lady. Jim Bakker and his wife put a good show of QVC when they leave their show they can sign a contract with QVC TV. Nobody has any clue that how many condos he owns at Morning side well he is doing so well that people come to watch his show and support his show he is a slick guy but we hope that IRS CHECK OUT his books to find out how much money he has made and how much Taxes are paid. IRS please check that out that will be a very noble task Thank You

Anonymous said...

If this time Jim Bakker is indicted so the rest of his team including his wife Lorrie Zack Tanya his adopted daughter and her husband are all complicit they ought to go to jail because they got to learn that if you are partner with a criminal you should share the prison with him. Let's clean up the morning side from the crooks the phony pastor is teaching these guys how to use religion to deceive people Jim Bakker not only is selling products on his show but they are over internet @ different sites man this pastor knows how to make by selling better than TV shopping center I can't believe the people who go to worship on the Morningside church but they talk about what we got new stuff to sell you this is their worship If Jesus come down today he will be shock to see his show .Today he is selling generator for only $2200 dollars besides food and filter bottles what do you think that Jesus will buy from Jim Bakker show.

Anonymous said...

IRS ought to check Jim Bakker's warehouse and check his books not only he is cheating the gullible people but he thinks that he is above the law. It is very disturbing to see that he is using the religious channel to sell his products speciously .So IRS should see into this matter because the crooks like Jim Bakker should stop cheating the simple people. Thanking in advance IRS.

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